So I’m about to drop the controversial bomb with this one I feel. But it needs to be said so whatever. Using mouse and keyboard on any console, especially in competitive, doesn’t make you good.
“But Rowdy, I’m getting so many kills!” Yeah, because you have an unfair advantage over those who use a controller like you’re supposed to. Top that off with the fact that on console you have an aim assist function to leviate the use of a controller and those who use M+K get it too. It doesn’t make you good, it makes you a douchebag. Personally, those who do this on console would get clapped on PC without their advantage.
Tbh I feel like this is directed more towards the diamond-gm ranks on console as it’s much more common at higher Sr levels. They’re not invincible sure, but the fact that you’ll have to focus more on that person and pull yourself away from a team fight is almost as bad. Should be heavily bannable in my opinion or atleast should have the users rank taken away.
This may sound like I’m just complaining, but this feeling is shared heavily among the console competitive scene.
I do not think any PC players really goes to the lesser platform to do this, i think it is just Console players that does it, with maybe a few PC players, that might not have a PC anymore and uses Console more now. But still, who would go to the inferior platform to play, when PC is superior in all aspects (No joke, like to become pro and get a career etc)
I believe it’s part of the contract agreement with Sony that does not permit Blizzard to punish K+M users ; also that the software is not directly integrated into the devices, usually is 3rd party - makes the programming of such detections difficult.
If someone is using K+M ; they should turn off the auto-aim. At the very least because it makes them a worse player if they get used to that and try to switch over to PC where the highest levels of competitive is played. Not that console doesn’t have good players or a competitive-by-nature player base, but the game is played in lower fps/refresh settings.
The same boat I’m in, my graphics card hit the bricks recently so I’ve been playing Xbox exclusively. While yes I’m used to a m+k I can respect the fact that it’s wrong. Can I cough up the extra money to hook one up? Definitely, but I’d be ruining others fun.
There’s nothing controversial about what you’re saying, using M+K does give an advantage and in a perfect world should be banned altogether from consoles.
The only people who’d disagree are the odd people who are adamant that using a controller isn’t inferior to a M+K on an FPS (And yes I’m talking strictly about FPS games, controllers are sometimes superior to a M+K on other games).
I dunno why people don’t invest in even a crappy m+k to play FPS on console
I like controllers and will use for some games on pc but I’ll try and pick the best input for the game I’m playing. Controllers for FPS on console seem more like a holdover from older times when you didn’t have a choice =\
For what it’s worth I don’t play OW on console so I have no horse in this race, this is just my view from someone who will pair up joy cons to the emulator on my Mac cos it feels nicer to play.
I wholeheartedly agree with you on that one. For fighting games, side scrollers and games like rocket league, the controller is supreme. The issue I have is sure, use a controller on PC if you want, they’re like 15 bucks and up. For a third party adapter and mk you’re looking at 150 plus or so and while I have that money to splurge on it I won’t since I know not everyone else is as fortunate
FPS games are supposed to be played with kb+m. I dont get it why some game restricts using them on console. Consoles are becoming more and more the same as PCs every generation. Why on earth you want to stay in stone age? Embrace the newer, better experience and adapt to the new better things you are given. “But I wanna play with sticks and rocks!” Well then play, but dont whine if someone is playing with a toy gun.
No, I think you’re missing my entire point. First, Jeff Kaplan has gone on the record multiple times saying he doesn’t want any mk on console until it can be widespread to the point where most to all people can use it. Second, that stuffs expensive man. And it provides an unfair advantage to the few that have it. I wouldn’t be so against it if it disabled the aim assist automatically and more people had it, but the fact is that those using those using mk are going to use the aim assist. It’s not about “living in the Stone age” as much as it is that you’ll have an unfair advantage every time over those who are good at the game. When hardware beats skill, there’s an issue.
I look at the latest CoD and what they’ve done to support mouse n keyboard and feel embarrassed for the current state of overwatch in this regard. And both games are ActiBlizz. M+K is implemented flawlessly in CoD along with all the various player opted queue settings.
Edit to be clear I’m anti xim. I just wish Blizz would support k+m officially so the xim users could no longer cheat their way to the top.
M+K console players are lowlife scums that only look at the easy way to accomplish something in their useless life.
The fact that they’re having this behavior in a videogame just makes it even more sad.
Usually they are brave enough to try to give some ethical explanation on their choice like “everybody use it at high ranks, so do I to avoid the penalization”.
what a waste of space they are.
Controllers & KBM don’t belong in multiplayer together.
KB&M players are far better (on average) on CoD, whilst the inverse is true on Halo Reach due to magnetism/soft lock-on. I don’t think you can ever give both sets of players an equal starting point.
Devs and console manufacturers should keep them seperate and people should be punished for deviating from this.
That’s exactly what existing games that support mkb do and it works great. Gears, fortnite, cod, and others. It detects your input method and asks if you want to be qued with both controller and mkb players, or just those using the same input devices. It does create two ques but at least it’s a level playing field for all who care about that sortof thing. Bottom line is overwatch is just wayyyyyy behind on this one. Maybe Blizz is waiting on crossplay, or ow2, or just doesn’t want to. But the technical tools exist to make it happen today and they choose not to. It’s unfortunate as the current situation completely destroys the integrity of the comp environment on console. But Blizz has always been a pc game company so perhaps they just don’t care.
