First I’d like to say that it’s not that Mercy isn’t a problem. She definitely is but Brig is a bigger one and I’ll explain why.
For all of the people that complain about Mercy. Mercy got a gigantic buff when Brigitte got released. Brig is the best hero to protect a Mercy with by far. By now everyone knows to focus the Mercy it’s a repeated quote and it should be possible to focus her but Brig removes that option. Mercy would normally get dived or hopefully if you get a high skilled flanker he will manage to eliminate her. Brig completely takes that possibility out. And even if the Brig did make a mistake and is far away she has a big instant heal that will top Mercy off and will save her.
Brig isn’t nearly as fun as the other supports for most people as she requires less mechanical skill. For me there is no fun playing brig except the fact that I will win the game - just look at the win percentage with this hero. And there is definitely no fun for the entire enemy team because trust me. Brig will ruin their day.
The only reason we are seeing more Mercy players than Brigitte players atm is because Brigitte is legitimately the least interactive hero in the game.
There is no counterplay to Brigitte except Pharah and sadly that’s the good part. Oh and don’t give me that “Hanzo is a counter to her too” crap nah he’s not - he destroys ALL shield heroes and tbh he destroys everyone because he has Storm Arrows and it’s too strong.
Now for the bad part. The bad part is that Widow is really good in the meta(not saying that Widow shouldn’t be meta but the combination of the two is too much) and the Pharah will be shut down by her. The combo of a Brig and Widow in the same team is just too strong as much as I love Widow because of her high skill cap.
So the enemy team picked Widow and a Brigitte in the same team. What now? The only counter play is a Widow to outplay the enemy one. Duplicating the enemy composition should never be the answer. Brig will defend the Widow. Widow will defend the Brig what is the counter to this composition? None.
Brigitte has no counterplay and is extremely hard to kill(usually not worth the amount of resources and preferably taken out last) and as stupid as it sounds her being so strong actually makes it boring for people to play her along with her none interactive kit.
Look at McCree and Roadhog when their CC abilities are on cooldown they’re easily focused down. So obviously the counterplay here is to predict the CC and then go for the kill. Lets put the same scenario with Brig. You predicted her stun. What now? Are you supposed to kill her? If you stand too close she’l hit you which will benefit her with regen and obviously will damage you. If you stand too far she’l just put her shield up.
So the only way to kill a Brig is to destroy her shield? Are you joking? Do you expect people to stand there and shoot at the shield for an entire minute?
There is no favorable position here. There is no counterplay. It is disgusting.
1 second isn’t going to make a difference. In my opinion having the stun on a lower CD even 5sec + buffing her AOE heals and removing her shield completely would be ideal. Right now you can’t call that hero a support. she’s more like an annoying hybrid. Buffing her AOE heals would help with that.
do you enjoy her compared to other supports. her being the most boring hero doesn’t mean she’s not enjoyable at all. it means she’s the most boring hero. is there a single support you would say you enjoy less? I’ll rephrase to the least interactive hero instead of most boring. Also about junkrat i’d say widow also counters junkrat just like pharah and the same point like hanzo it’s not that he counters brigitte. he counters all shield heroes.
Do you…uhhh… Do you know what a “subjective opinion” is? Because you make that statement as if it’s an objective fact, when it most certainly isn’t.
Just because you think something is boring and unfun doesn’t mean someone else shares that opinion. I absolutely have fun going into the fray and brawling. It’s why I play a lot of Mei, Junkrat, Reaper, and Reinhardt. It’s not boring to me at all. You know what is boring to me? Playing “Widowmaker’s Point & Click Adventure” as I point at and click heads while staying away from the action.
come on with the “boring” thing that wasn’t the point of the thread. I rephrased twice now. I now mention it’s my opinion and say that for most people she’s not as fun because she requires less mechanical skill. Now please put focus on the actual point of the post and not her being fun or not that was a way to show that that’s the reason she’s played less than mercy, it’s not because she’s worse as you clearly see in the win percentage it’s because she’s not as fun for many people (there will always be exceptions). Try re reading please and if it still bothers u ill change it further.
I feel like people are missing the point when complaints about Brig are brought up and not elaborated on.
Why is Brig considered too strong? Because at lower tiers of play, she is considered nearly indestructible. That is why her win rate is so high and why so many people were/have been/will be so upset with her for so long.
People do not have the mechanical skill or coordination to focus down an extremely skilled Brig who has learned what it takes to attack, retreat, and so forth. She’s extremely good at all these things, especially when paired with a tank or a DPS.
So for all of you in the higher tiers wondering why people in lower tiers hate her so much, that is why.
you should check my rank. and that’s not even my main. I’ve been at 4.2k and I hate bragging but you pretty much asked for it. And look up her win percentages in grandmaster and master not on the lower tiers again. it’s 56%+ on all “high tiers”.
I’ll add that “low tier players” is definitely not the reason that “we” complain about brig. The reason is that she gives so much to the team without much mechanical skill. And feel free to take a look at OWL where she’s picked every time a team runs tracer or genji and after a brig is picked they immediately switch.
First and foremost, you are a single person. You do not speak for “most people.” Do not act as though you do. I’ve seen more than a few people who have fun playing Brig and it’s also usually those people who don’t mind fighting against her, because they know how to exploit her very big weaknesses.
As for her winrate, I’m more than happy to discuss it and explain why the pickrate/winrate argument is flawed. When you look at Brigitte in comparison to all the heroes, she has a fairly average pickrate with a high winrate. People look at this and immediately assume that she’s overpowered.
Looking at it that way is flawed, though, because there are only six healers in the game. When you look at Brigitte’s pickrate in comparison to just the other healers, as you should, she’s actually got a pretty low pickrate. This means that people are picking her only in the situations where she has an advantage, which explains the inflated winrate.
Meanwhile Zenyatta and Mercy have a less inflated winrate because they’re picked almost all the time due to being better in the current meta. Mercy is arguably the best main healer in the game with her resurrect, mobility, her damage boosting, and her very good sustained healing. Zenyatta, at the moment, is almost a must-pick because of Grav-Dragon.
That is why Brigitte gets picked less often and so situationally, which in turn, inflates her winrate.
That’s not a case of Brigitte being overpowered, though. That’s a case of bad players being bad. Now then…what should you do if you’re a bad player? You should be looking to learn and improve so you can get better at the game. When a character is giving you problems, that’s an opportunity for improvement, which you should be striving for. Learn how to deal with them and become better as a player.
Do you know how much people improve at the game by crying on the forums until a character they don’t like gets nerfed? The answer is that they don’t improve at all. They stay bad, and they keep complaining.
I actually know as a fact that most people like high mechanical high risk high reward heroes. So I will speak for “most people” what “very big weaknesses” are you speaking of? I mean if I don’t know them you sure should tell me. And once again don’t call me a “bad player” if you don’t know how I play I will more than happily show u how “bad” I am if u want. Also how do you justify the numerous plat players that climbed to high masters - grandmasters I see switching their main to Brig? is it an explosion of improvement in the overwatch community? what’s going on if she’s not too strong?
There you go again, using subjective opinion and claiming it to be fact. Didn’t I already tell you about that?
If you are having as much trouble with Brigitte as you claim, I’m sorry but you absolutely are a bad player. I can outplay her on a multitude of characters, including Genji and Tracer who she’s supposedly a hard counter for, simply due to the fact that I’m smart enough to not get into melee range in a situation where she’s going to shield bash me, or I play characters that literally don’t care about the fact that she shield bashed them like Doomfist, Reinhardt, or Orisa.
