Feels awful. Nothing is staying alive at all and when our team dies through our weak healing they yell at us and blame us. I try my best but it’s not like I can hack the game and increase how much healing the 5 unbanned characters do.
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The off healers aren’t unbalanced (in terms of healing anyway), they’re just meant to focus more on utility than healing and be paired with a main healer. Unless you’re in the owl and don’t need healing somehow.
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I don’t mind the lack of Ana and Moira in and of itself. It makes Baptiste basically a must-pick, but I have plenty of hours on him. What’s frustrating is that the people on other roles aren’t playing around the lack of Ana and Moira. They’re picking comps that wouldn normally be best with an Ana, or taking positions that would favor her range and distance, which means I either have to try to play Bap like an Ana, or I’m forced to go Mercy. Both options mean the team isn’t even getting as much healing as they could get even in this low-heal pool.
Oh, and I really wish my tanks would just stop picking Hog+Zarya/Hog + D.va/ D.va + Zarya/ etc. That’s been the biggest problem this patch, for me. Nobody seems to want to go Sigma + Orisa even though it’s probably the ideal pairing right now.
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The fact people are running zen/brig I think just shows how there is a lot people can get away with for moving smartly across the map to minimize how much trash damage they take and how much value you can get out of well timed things like shields and other abilities that remove damage from the game. Or even just the ability to know when to disengage because you will not have the healing to aggress.
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You could run Bap/Lucio, Rein/Zarya, S76/Reaper/Mei and you have all the self sufficiency you need as multiple people have sources of healing or evading damage while having enough healing with bap/lucio.
You literally can’t this week? I’m not sure if I’m misunderstanding you, but you can’t pick Reinhardt or Reaper this week.
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Really doesn’t work in 2-2-2.
For instance, the fact that Zen is still a bad pick is telling in itself that Blizzard has zero clue on what they are doing.
The concept of off tanks, and even more so off heals has to disappear if they continue down the misery that is 2-2-2 if everyone is to be able to play the heroes they enjoy.
They’ve backed themselves into a corner, and are using hero bans as a lazy way out to say “hey, the meta is still changing!”. It’s pathetic.
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I forgot rein was part of the block list and ‘reaper’? Just something like Hog/Orisa for example. Rather immobile composition, but can gain value out of speed boost to reposition as needed and it stays as a mini death ball to make use of aoe bap healing.
This is true. I played with some really good dive tanks the other day that would go in without healers but get out and be fine yet still get value out of their dives. Idk how they did it.
But your average player can’t do this. As a support you often don’t have much of a choice to go anything that isn’t going to dish out a lot of healing because players will take so much damage. Even then Ana+ Moira sometimes isn’t enough.
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there’s a genji in every game
I’m not sure what your rank is, but at least in plat and below, comps with lower healing early function because most people just don’t have the positioning or health pool awareness to get away with it. I’ve had multiple marches where our supports were Moira/Ana + Brigitte, yet the team begged for higher healing. People like that are not functioning with this hero pool.
I’m not sure where you got the idea that I need composition suggestions. I was venting about the picks other people keep making this patch that fail to work time after time. I don’t have control over their picks when I’m on support.
I’ve seen a few, but not many. He’s pretty bad in this pool.
If you kill damage sources you don’t need to heal, so pick a mercy, find your carry, and let him do his job.
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That’s a recipe for disaster for the majority of the player base. 
Heals/Tanks really carry far more at… Gold… maybe even Plat and below outside of smurfs.
Yeah, Ive been playing tank and I will admit, dive is pretty good right now. I’ve mainly been playing Winston and Ball, on attack and Defense. Itw good because theres no reaper, and moira. Running a healer combo that revolves around dive is pretty helpful too. Mercy, Zen, Lucio. It can work with brig, but not as effective. All I know is Ive won way more games than lost, climbed nearly 500 sr. a good dive due to lack of heals also counters bunker. I recommend pocketing your Winston if hes doing work. But yeah, I have a 75+ Win rate on my dive tanks and normally leave the match with golds and sometimes silvers. I honestly recommend dive due to Ana/Moira/Reaper/Rein Ban. On attack AND Defense. Its been working for me.
So wrong… Baptiste + “X secondary healer” can work amazing…
During Goats Lucio + Zeny were the main healers. Moira & Ana were existing already…
I’ve noticed this a lot, almost every match is dive dive dive and the tanks are playing outside of everyone’s reach. We don’t have Ana/Moira, I can’t just beam you heals or toss a ball. Stick with the team more please.
Now not that leaping into the fray is a no no but good lord get healed when you need it.
Zarya/Winston has been working well, at least in gold. It’s been pretty rare to get a shield of some kind making D very hard to heal up at times. The worst part is cat herding because everyone, including tanks, are off flanking. It’s like everyone lost the ability to work as a team.
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This right here, I was talking to my friend about this earlier. For some god awful reason this has been a problem since the ban. Like all of the sudden everyone has ADHD.
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The real question is if you keep dying due to a lack of healing… The enemy should be having the same issue, no?
It all comes down to who can play around the changes, not the change itself.
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If you pick a Genji when Ana is banned you are 100% throwing.
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