I have a little bit more time to play now so i came back into the game , until 5 p.m. i can get normal teammates that know basics of the game like don’t pick genji vs winston or try to kill squishes and don’t shoot mindlessly into the tank. After 5 p.m. quality of the matches fall drastically especially on the DPS side and there are more stacked games with duos and trios which is understandable, as a solo tank player I get a lot of those games when 1 guy on my team goes 1/11, had a record when dude went 4/20 and said he just tries to unwind from work. After 10 p.m. match quality comes back to normal. There should really be punishments or some restrictions for doing so subpar.
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Sometimes you’re just filler being thrown into games because the dps and support players have been sitting in q for 10 min. Their q time > your match quality.
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I agree with this. But apparently thats to tyrannical. Too mean. And supposedly its impossible to tell who is really trying and who just plain sucks. As far as im concerned, idgaf which is which, ban them both, or have these people match and play with only each other.
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If someone is playing Genji properly. Playing it into Winson is fine.
Either you’re bothering their backline, or the monkey is chasing you. Either is a +
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Yea this is a problem thou if the game expects you to carry and your team is a group of monkies, literally. Kitting the tank for 1 minute wont matter since your team including your tank will flop over in less than 10 seconds without doing anything.
Its the easiest way to tell if your game gonna be garbage. Like if they focus on shutting you down with their tank committed, sometimes maybe even a support or a dps and you are still losing. You know instantly your team is garbage. Depeding on your positioning of course, but if you do not flop over in half a second, yea. That kind of resource expenditure is super easy to counter.
And on top of that those players play like it’s just a game or something! Completely outrageous and ridiculous to do that. The absolute audacity of some people
don’t be racist.
the only people who think the “game expects you to carry” are the ones that think the match maker is the problem on the forums.
The game doesn’t expect anyone to carry. If expects you to solve the problem of the match. How to beat the 5 players put in front of you.
There is no “tell” this is just people who have confirmation bias. You thought it would go bad, and it went bad, so you think you some how predicted it would. Up there with palm readings and tarot cards for utter nonsense stuff.
Sounds like you go into games in completely the wrong mindset. Why you looking for the negatives. Why aren’t you being positive and finding a solution of the problem the enemy are posing.
OW isn’t a difficult game. People just make it far harder for themselves than they need to.
Can’t believe people still make these posts, and on tank no less complaining about DPS performance… yeesh. Your DPS aren’t there to win the game for you, them just existing is good enough unless they have literally 2x the deaths than everyone else in the lobby when it ends.
Yes you are supposed to be better and carry doing much more than your counterpart towards winning (which doesn’t show on the scoreboard), or you’re at the rank you should be stuck at and not be complaining about any one… at that point it’s time to stop and reevaluate your gameplay, as what you think you know is the right way to play, was only correct and worked up to your current rank now revealing how wrong you actually are in your views and gameplay style.
“The game doesn’t expect anyone to carry. If expects you to solve the problem of the match. How to beat the 5 players put in front of you.” Among your other messages just screams silver or gold rank to me, to the point I would almost bet my life on it… potentially plat 4-5 area. I have never seen any one at decent rank talk like this in 7 years of Overwatch that wasn’t low rank.
Whatever rank you may be, you thinking this game is simple and you’ve solved it 100% believing your views of how this game works and should be played is why you’re hard stuck where you are and complaining about your team here, most likely sitting at 50-55% win rate dependent if you get a better team than your enemy to win it for you.
Now if you’re just looking for ‘good games’ that are evenly matched not caring who wins and not trying to rank up, while being disappointed how poor the matchups can be during certain hours, that’s another story.
What are you on about?
But hey maybe the monkeys should be offended coz the total brain trust of some of my teammates at times hardly even add up to the intelligence of one monkey.
It is a problem, coz it is riddled with tons of engagement gimmicks instead of pure gameplay quality. This is the same company that released a 24 pages exposition of their CoD MM. 24 pages of information they were willing too share, so it does not even begin to cover the things they still won’t share. The nativity that OW would be any different when it is literally the same company is hilarious.
Spare everyone the empty philosophy speech. I never thought it would go bad in those situations, until it went bad coz everyone on my team was clearly underperforming as not a single one if them could be remotely competitive with any enemy player. Which is basically statistically impossible. Which is especially true if everyone was supposedly the same or around the same skill level which is the idea of a ranked MM.
My theory is that the matchmaker does not take into account how well people play at certain times. A top 500 player who only plays at 2AM is maybe master at best at 8PM. Whole groups play absurdly different at different times. Schoolkids play different than people who got back home from work. And the largest group that has negative experiences with the matchmaker are those who play at more than one timeslot, experiencing all the differences and never getting a satisfied match because their mmr never actually aligns with their teammates and opponents.
It just isn’t. It matches on a number. Does nothing else.
Technically that was a different company. The were (and still are but a different one) owned by the same parent company though.
Who said skill level. It is just MMR. If everyone plays hundreds and hundreds of games, the MMR will be representative of skill because thats just naturally how it will distribute. But you aren’t matched on “skill” you are matched on your ability to win games.
They were literally under the same stock ticket. They were the same company. Bobby was CEO. Blizzard had a president, which basically functioned as nothing but Bobbie’s backlash shield.
The parent company.
Same parent company. 2 separate organisations.
Of the parent company.
That was more just because of Bobbys inability to manage people.
Still the same company. Still the same principles being applied. Still sharing the resources. Every single inside information revealed stress the point of overlapping management and structural homogenization. They use the same tech available for their games, it is as simple as that.
OW2 was a huge change to get the game on the CoD echo system design with battlepass and bundles. Per example.
They rarely shared resources.
In fact it is well documented that Jeff Kaplan refused the offer of shared resources from Bobby Kotick in order to help OW2 development.
That is a business model, and they said in 2018 all games under the parent company would head in that direction as a model as it was proven (at the time) to be successful.
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He refused more devs that would have to be trained regardless of source.
it does feel off sometimes when you win games but they feel like you where smurfing and if you where not in like high 30 to 40 in kills an below 3 in deaths it would have been a lose while no other teammate is even close to a positive k:d…
Unfortunately scoreboard stats paint a wrong picture majority of the time and don’t result in deciding wins or losses in most cases. Why you often get games where one team has crazy good scoreboard stats across the board vs other team, yet barely eek out the win as you sit there wondering why isn’t this a steamroll. Easily the worst change to OW2 and has massively increased the toxicity and cluelessness in the lower ranks.
It doesn’t show who is actually making the big plays that decide the fight most of the time, promotes feeding and uptime over everything which is completely wrong for tank where uptime isn’t the way to go compared to DPS and support. Along with all the other obvious shortcomings of judging players based on that… too many to list.
I felt this as well, especially since the playerbase is cut in half. Don’t que tank unless you have a support and dps with you who you trust. (Past 5PM)
Like straight up don’t play the game. Play rivals or do something else you enjoy, solo queuing tank has zero rewards for players.