Will we have the new reworked voice lines there?
Because let’s be honest, the name McCree was pretty much used a lot in retribution.
Would make sense if they redone all the removed voicelines aswell…
Or you want them to just remove them and that’s it?
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the thing is that the name Jesse McCree is still an alias of Cole Cassidy.
Since the events of Retribution were a few years ago, one could actually include in the story why he was still addressed as McCree at the time and one could avoid to use reconning that way.
The thing is that the whole lore is a bit broken now, especially if you use reconning. I doubt that the effort will be made to re-voice reunion. Which is quite up to date in the timeline.
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That would be a weird oversight if they don’t change em
Pretty sure they changed or removed his lines elsewhere
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In another thread it was said the lines that say his name were fully removed when they usually keep them in the game throughout the year; the source is another thread so ofc its not the most reliable but even so
The name change is probably a full retcon so if they were to add voice lines they’ll probably say Cassidy
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they will either change it or we wont see that mission this year
They will probably just cheese it and when the voice should say “McCree” it will say “Cassidy” in the same flat tone like an automated voice response system 
The whole thing was a childish move that functioning adults should not have even asked for whatever the real JM did (note to date not a single allegation has been made public).
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in the internal files they have already deleted all the conversations that say “Jesse McCree”, and they are really quite a lot in retribution.
- not reinstating them would give a little too many moments of silence in the mission archives;
- reinstating them with the name “McCree” would make all the censorship around the game useless
- reinstate them with as “Cassidy” officially defines the incomplete retcon of not having replaced the name “mccree” in the official digital sources of the game that can be accessed (comics from playoverwatch, reunion from youtube, kindle of deadlock rebels …)
any choice will be an evident contradiction with other things, but surely the thought that canonically “Jesse McCree” has suddenly decided to call himself “Cole Cassidy” … cannot exist. neither logically nor chronologically within the lore, and with this year’s retribution it will be even more evident.
in this irrevocable decision, Blizzard could have the concern to at least correct the sources recoverable online, and make all its editorial products of the “pieces of the past” of the game. Doing it only within the game and in the biography on the official website but not in the narrative sources where it is possible to make a change is a strong contradiction, honestly. ESPECIALLY if you are planning some relevance in knowing the lore for OW2.
you just get a Streisand effect of what you no longer wanted to see in the game. or in the forums.
maybe you mean the post I wrote, and I confirm this. I usually like to periodically extract the game’s audio files to discover new lore notions (just like the YT channel “Overwatch interactions” does) and the only exception to the name “cole cassidy” is echo for the ultimate and in an interaction with Ashe saying she saved Cole once.
As interactions with orisa, Mei, etc. In the game todat, Cole Cassidy no longer has voiceline with Moira, Genji and Reyes when his old name is said in retribution.
in any case, I am still convinced that they should have formalized the retcon of the name in more detail in as many official sources as possible. at least on the digital level, given the obvious editorial impossibility.
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Yea it probably was, I didn’t catch who the op was so I wasn’t able to credit you
It’s interesting hearing what you do tho haha
I fully except them to rework the voice lines.
They have a lot of free time anyways!
Clearly.
literally does not make any sense what so ever…
lets say they re voice all the voice lines… the story is going to be different. Reaper, Genji and Moira all know him as Mccree.
And its not even like we got anything about why he chose the name Mccree to hide himself… its not like we got anything saying anything or any explanation why Cassidy wanted to hide himself and not use his name…
if they redo the entire retribution cinematic, cut scenes and voicelines these writers have no idea what theyre doing with anything and care more about virtue signaling then actually telling a story
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Even if they do change it to Cassidy for Retribution… everyone on that mission has a plausible reason to know his real name. Reyes would have known it since he recruited Cole, and Moira and Genji have worked with him long enough to find out his real name.
Changing his name in the dialogue wouldn’t be a retcon, it would just establish that those three knew his real name.
If only they did that huh, but no
Given the situation Blizzard is in with the whole scandal it wouldn’t surprise me if they fully retcon McCree and say he was Cole Cassidy all along.
yea well too bad that we will never truly know when and why Cassidy decided that he thought it would be best to hide his real name… and what the purpose was for it.
It would make no sense to change Mccree, even if Reaper knew what his real name was and recruited him before he name changed. Also, we will have to know when Mccree changed his name… or when Cassidy changed his name to Mccree… Ashe knew him as Mccree for the longest time… Reaper recruited Mccree from the deadlock gang… so, Mccree was Mccree when he was recruited to Blackwatch/Overwatch. With that that being said, that means he has the name Mccree during the Retribution mission. Blackwatch is a secret team of assassins/infiltration team that decides to do shady unethical things that Overwatch does not want to do or be involved with.
If you want to bring the real world into this, CIA operatives (or any other governmental or private secret under cover agency) have real names and fake names. When theyre on a mission even with people that they know for 15 years, they are not going to use their real name… because they knew them for 15 years, they use a fake name.
I disagree on this, honestly. Because too strange scenarios are created such as:
- “Do you know that Ashe has always known Cassidy by the name McCree and suddenly she calls him Cole in the game’s dialogue lines because she has been informed by various sources that he wants to be called that?” (It would be silly, Reyes is still called Reyes by those who have always known him like this)
- “Do you know that Echo got an update on how he wanted to be called McCree? That’s why she says Jessie, she hadn’t been informed yet.”
- Do you know that Ana has by now imprinted the name McCree in the Uprising comic but seeing him again in New Blood may have had an update on what he wants to be called? “(That if in retribution the team will call him” Cole ", why Ana would have had to call him McCree in the 'next year? we invent the “blackouts of public names” after the Venice accident and if they are inside OW builds? Reyes remained Reyes, yet HE was the protagonist of the accident. Genji remained Genji in Storm Rising .)
it seems to me too weak an attempt to justify Blizzard at all costs for making a mess with this change of name and the continuity of the lore of his name. We would simply have to admit that they could have been more precise in wanting to change the name EVEN in digital sources that can still be changed. But this was not the case, and in fact we continue to discuss what is canonical and what is not.
“Oh, that printed book? It’s for the days when Cole was called Jessie.” Here is the case in which we really see the need to remember what happened. And there would not be these implicit logics a little too absurd not to accept that something has been forcibly changed. Not for a character so involved as this cowboy.
Speaking of which, hasn’t the OW team said Cassidy’s name change would be included in some sort of story arc sometime soon… or did I get this wrong… ?
Wild how McCree got 1984’d from nearly every line in the game. It’ll be interesting if the devs forget about Retribution and it remains untouched. Hopefully it is, tbh.
That’s the irony of it all. The renaming was a cancel culture move by what should have been functioning adults in the dev team who could parse their feelings for a real person apart from a video game character. Man, the standards for self-control have fallen through the floor… and to your point, all this really did was in a sense just distract from focus on the real issues that occurred. I suspect somewhere some Blizzard employee with a bone to pick and calendar with cats on it sleeps better at night falling asleep thinking how Jesse McCree the video game character was renamed to Cole Cassidy 
no, the exact opposite: when the first volume of New Bloods came out it was specified that they would not have addressed in any way the change of the name of the cowboy within this comic saga.
Thanks for letting me know. I must have read this diagonally ^^'…
What a shame, this could have had a lot of potential for Cassidy’s storyline and could have explained why he didn’t follow Echo after defeating Ashe.
I guess this was answered in the New Bloods comic but I haven’t read it yet. I wanna keep everything related to the story for later (a few days prior to OW2 PVE release).