Lol having a slight advantage over your hero isn’t an off button my guy, you just suck lol
You can still win that, without to much issue.
It literally can be lol
Doesnt matter how good you are on a hero if you are being countered
clash promotes counter swapping, comp promotes counter swapping, Sombra promotes counter swapping. holy smokes people, maybe that’s the point of the game and has been since release? sorry that someone changed to a tank you don’t know how to deal with
Its not about if you do or dont know how to deal with it
Its being forced to change heroes because someone else picked a different hero. That is bad design
Anyone can swap heroes, it isnt a skill. Question is why should you have to swap just because someone else changed hero
That captures it pretty damn well lol
Yeah, I was gonna say that. I feel sorry for tank players, tbh.
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You dont have to swap. A dva can play against a team that has zarya just fine if you know what you’re doing. I mean honestly all the DVA has to do is avoid the Zarya or one of the dps could swap to bastion and just melt zarya.
Also alot of tanks that go for the instant counterswap tend to tunnel vision. Like if they swap zarya cus of dva that zarya tends to be laser focused (hehe) on the dva and you can even use that to your advantage.
Yeah she can now only because they have gigabuffed her to be able to ignore Zarya
And whats the result of that? She is destroying the game for everyone else. Very healthy
It’s not, as d.va I can in fact play outside of zarya’s beam range. and use mobility to engage and exit her range. While attacking any hero I wish really, as long as I’m letting my healers reset me between pushes. And you can do that multiple times a fight.
As rien I can infact use map geometry or just flanks to not have to burn my barrier till i’m already in melee range. At that point I can use it to stall out the orisa fortify or mauga healing. Then point blank charge them.
Or you at any point just… shoot their dps/supports and cut them off from their sustain or damage pressure they need to hold a spot.
Like you can do more mold W and press your cooldowns into the enemy tank now.
TLDr your just trash man LOL
here’s your answer: you don’t have to swap, ever. just play the hero you like and hope the match ends quick.
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Yeah this isnt happening lol. You are never winning as rein vs orisa or mauga they wreck you
How to say your bad at the game my guy.
Because you can in fact not only pin these characters for well over half their hp, but you have pretty easy time just circling around them and smacking their team.
Remember you block spears, and you can save barrier to wait out her fortify. After that you can just junk through her armor with burst damage. Which rien has a lot off.
That and well neither of them have much to stop shatter from hitting their team, outside of 1 skill shot on orisa’s part.
Ya it feels very arcade like
Sure thats why rein was good against them in high ranks…. Oh wait. He was one of the worst tanks 
Ahahah I see you been listening to flats.
Dude does just fine at high ranks. He is still like the third most pick tank in GM.
No, just anecdotal evidence that he wasnt very good past plat/diamond because other tanks offer more and he starts to struggle to keep up
Counterswapping is the main point of this game. So many people still don´t get this…
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Sounds like it’s a dynamic game mode
Which sounds great until it becomes forced which it has gotten to that point now.
And its great to say counterswapping is fine until its YOUR teammate who is the one not counterswapping and that is what loses you the game. Then counterswapping sucks because you are now dependent on someone else to be as equally happy to swap as you are and if not then you lose the game from their decision
Its better to make counterswapping as minimal as possible. Not only does that not force certain heroes to need to be played but it also means your random teammate who picks junk isn’t completely throwing because you NEED a hitscan
Like outside of the really wacky mauga/orisa stuff rien has been a solid pick for basically all of ow2.
their isn’t a lot of things that can just deny him value when he is in range, and he can quite easily just block large cooldown/ults back to back in many cases.
And has only gotten better since kiriko can’t undo the shatter or charge states.
He isn’t “the” meta, but he isn’t bad either.
Also like a lot of other tanks can’t 1-shot, splam the whole enemy team into the ground, and do 100~120 damage per hit. That can hit mulitple targets at the same time.