whoever thought clash was a good idea for comp is a complete moron.
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Why though?
I get not liking the mode, but why can’t it be in comp?
Surely a mode that requires you to play in a different way is a good addition to comp?
(for clarity I don’t really enjoy the mode either, but it is more because people seem to play it passively and it just means most games are boring back and forths that just end up being won by whoever won the first point… If you dare to even try play aggressively, you just get rolled because no one comes with you).
Other than the fact it’s a fundamentally awful mode, I have yet to see a single clash game last 10 minutes. Most games range from 3-5 minutes. That is ridiculously short especially for something in comp. It’s hardly worth the effort.
So, it shouldn’t be in because you personally don’t like it?
Whilst I don’t enjoy the matches either, that isn’t really a reason for it not to be there.
If we got rid of things just because I personally don’t enjoy them. The game would be just Payload and Hybrid matches, with only Ball or Rein as tank options.
That’s certainly one way to dodge the point.
Again, fundamentally awful mode that lasts an insanely short amount of time compared to every other mode makes it hardly worth the effort. It’s like an arcade mode / quick play only mode because it genuinely only ever lasts like 3-5 minutes.
Even if you do wanna do the weird “I’m gonna dodge the point and just say you don’t personally like it” thing because that’s a silly thing to say to begin with, most people don’t like it. Been the only mode I’ve ever seen where multiple people in multiple different games have asked for someone to dodge JUST so they don’t have to play it in comp.
Also one of the few modes where the players consistently criticize the mode mid game… while winning or losing.
No point dodged. I accepted that these were your personal feelings on the mode based on your match experience. But that isn’t really a good reason for it not being there.
My last 2 games in the mode were very back and forth. Last one was a 7:00 5-3 defeat. The one before was a 10:00 5-4 victory.
If one team plays the mode properly and aggressively, and the other doesn’t that can happen. I have won one of them in 2:45.
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Except that’s how it usually goes. Because the mode is fundamentally flawed.
So it’s flawed because the team that plays well and plays the mode “properly” wins.
Overwatch logic I guess lol
No…
It’s flawed because the gamemode takes the worst of 2cp and the worst of flashpoint and just mixes it into one garbage mode.
I am not saying I like the mode. I don’t dislike it either. Just don’t enjoy the matches atm.
But saying it is bad because if 1 team plays it properly they can win quickly is a bit silly. If you do that on any mode you’ll win quickly.
It is why people cry about “stomp or be stomped” games usually have 1 team that plays properly and 1 that staggers themselves by rushing into engagements when they don’t need to. Then they blame it on systems when they don’t realise they are the problem.
Same with Clash. Yeah games aren’t consistantly good, but that is because we as players need to learn how to play it.
That’s not what I’m saying. You misread me.
I’m saying MOST of the games are quick because it doesn’t just need to be about one team playing it right. The mode is just fundamentally awful because again… combines the worst from 2cp and the worst from flashpoint into one mode.
Dude, it f***ing sucks. This mode is fundamentally flawed and serves no purpose other than to derank half the playerbase against their will.
I agree with OP. It’s not fun, it’s cramped, too fast, and is genuinely for anxiety-inducing than adrenaline-pumping.
We should all just start dipping on ranked clash mode games so the dev team gets the message sooner; this doesn’t belong in comp and it’s not healthy for the game either.
Got that whole Blizzy in your mouth huh? Why the hell would I spend time and money on a game and have a studio tell me how they want me to play the game vs. playing a game I should actually want to play?
Make that make sense bud. If the majority of people don’t like clash, it should be removed from comp. That’s how being a player works. If you are the reason this game is still in business, you have the right to say in part to how the game should be. It’s not entitlement, it’s your literal right as a supporter.
And it would be wise for the dev team to listen before they keep losing more players
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Play something else then
It really isn’t. It’s how you want it to work.
Ok. Player numbers are steady and up in the last 30 days.
If Clash doesn’t belong in Comp, then Escort and Hybrid don’t either 
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I dont like clash push or flash - I don’t mind new modes coming to comp though if I could enact a change I’d just make it so new modes and maps can’t make their debut in comp. Let them go to QP FIRST and let the community decide if they want it in comp.
We could have probably caught that game breaking bug where they forgot to add cieling collision on push which released instantly to comp - flash either would never have been voted into a comp map OR it was have received its speed boost update that I admit does REALLY help it a lot instead of making most of us suffer through the half baked ideas and bugged maps.
Would any of you guys be surprised if next season clash has changes and improvements made while we are beta testing it in comp now?
I just think these things should always go QP first for a season.
Clash is awesome. It just wants you to be aggressive. You can’t play scared and try to poke your way to victory.
Honestly hate the game mode but ur right. I had a game earlier that was a horrible loss because the team would refuse to push in to the point and just sat there while the enemy kept capping each point I tried to contest as support but my team still would not push in. Then at the end of the game “how did we lose” “I hate this map” and I’m just like YALL JUST STOOD THERE AND WATCHED THEM CAP POINT!
I don’t mind clash, would rather get hanaoka or temple any day of the week compared to Havana, circuit, numbani, jtown, dorado and probably a couple others. You can sort of play any comp on clash and other than anubis having those really high ground sided 2nd objs I think it’s fine. Personally, don’t even mind that too much. 3rd point not even being worth going for as attacker sometimes can be pretty bad and the fact a team can have 7 fights with a disadvantage just because they won the first one and then lose the game can feel awful though. You should wait for timer to run out and the objective to open to push 3rd, don’t push early.
Clash is still better than flashpoint. Not that hard to beat flashpoint though.