Cheap characters(Console)

No Skill Toxic Characters
Moira
Symmetra
Bastion
Orisa
Sometimes sombra.

Have the cheapest kill mechanics in my opinion the game would be perfect without them what characters do you deem unfair and why?

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How is bastion no skill and toxic? Pretty much his only mechanic is aiming.

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Remove bastion and you got yourself a good list

Just… no. Moira and Symmetra haven’t defined “the meta” since season 1 and barely affect how Overwatch plays in any meaningful way. Sombra’s reign of terror has long since ended. Orisa has been largely rendered irrelevant by changes to Road Hog. Not that it has stopped trend-chasing tank mains from leaning on her too heavily because they don’t know what to do in season 3.

And I also agree that complaining about Bastion is foolish.

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They don’t need to be meta?
Moira and Sym are still both very simple characters and are definitely at the very bottom when it comes to skill requirements in the game.

What? Orisa countered Hog before the one-shot nerf and now counters him even harder. Orisa is literally Brig 1.0 tank edition in terms of her skill requirement, boop/stun spam kit and damage output.

Wherent you the crying tracer main? Yikes

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Nobody needs to counter Hog. He’s weak. Running Orisa every game no longer makes any sense.

And yes if heroes aren’t meta then they don’t define the current environment at all. They aren’t “toxic” and they don’t need to be changed or deleted.

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List is missing junkrat lol

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Has terrible damage. Has no utility.

Hard to get kills with her orbs. Her beam requires tracking and support from your team to keep you alive. Turrets die to any damage instantly and have an insane cooldown for how easy they are damaged.

Literally useless when not in his pew pew pew form. Free kill for half the DPS clas.

Just kill her supports and she will implode.

Literally one of the worst heroes in the game. She was hit by huge nerfs for no reason because large amounts of bad players complained & some high ranking tanks had actual valid complaints (no she wasn’t OP, if she was OP then why was she barely played in t500, whilst Sojourn is all over t500).

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Orisa bullies the other tanks with the exception of Sigma at range, what are you on about? Orisa is currently the only tank who can stop Wrecking Ball without using ults now that Hog is worthless. Sigma is the only one who stands a chance against her solely because he’s the best tank at range, however the moment Orisa closes the gap, she wins guaranteed. She curb stomps the like of Junker Queen, Winston and Doomfist, she bullies Rein, she slows down Wrecking Ball, she is the best tank when it comes to bullying the other tanks. Not through player skill mind you, solely through spamming her kit.

Meta or not, that doesn’t change how good a character is or how braindead they are.
I’m a Masters Baptiste, have never touched Moira once in the six years I’ve played. Then I got sick of putting in the effort Baptiste requires and losing anyway because of incompetent teammates or incompetent enemies who rely on low effort high reward characters like Orisa and Moira. So I started playing Moira and on the first game and onwards I was consistently getting more heals and damage than I ever had on Baptiste for zero effort. I’m never focused or seated properly in a comfortable position, my mind is completely turned off yet I’m more valuable to my team and more of a threat to the enemy.
You know nothing of this game or the balance it requires lmao

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I don’t play on console but I often saw bronze people said “you cheat” when the enemy picked Bastion in OW1. lol

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I’d probably argue for all heroes other than Sym being removed off the list tbh. Sym has the issue of her gun ramping up but from your pov the beam still looks like a stick so it’s very hard anticipating how much damage she is about to do to you. Also the turrets. I know they don’t move, but the slow, is sooooooo damn annoying. Kinda unwarranted given the amount of damage they do too.

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Tracer is a nightmare too, shes incredibly hard to track. Shes so hard to kill I am forced to use torb to deal with her because its nearly impossible to kill a god tier tracer on console.

im convinced anyone who thinks symmetra is no skill has never actually say down and played her for more than one game on lijang or something

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Least skilled character in the game u just throw turrets on a choke and wait for an enemy to over extend

this is the same thing as saying rein just waits with sheild and swings when people get close. or saying ashe just holds an angle adsing until enemies come. or zen just charges orbs then peeks enemies. or ana just shoots enemies and sleeps flankers that get close. explaining the base function of a heroes abilities does not prove anything. symmetra is a high maintenance hero responsible for dealing with flankers and getting rid of sheilds. she is responsible for counter ulting powerful dps plays and relocating her team at a moments notice. she is responsible on going on wuick aggressive flanks on enemy supports. to deal damage symmetra must play aggressively to charge a beam or be accurate with ber orb which has low damage speed and fire rate. all of this requires symmetra to have plans layed out in advance and react accordingly to enemy actions to protect her team. sym is a squishy dps that needs to stay alive for the sake of providing protection to her team and must make high skill risky plays and have good tracking and aim in order to do meaningful damage. now tell me how a character with this much responsibility and risk factor still no skill

The whole game for her is just turret cheap kills and ramp ups you cant avoid because of her visual glitches. NO SKILL character. Any character that has a payload glitch frequently popping up after a patch should be deleted. Learn how to aim.(more for console than pc btw) two different games

what glitches?? her wall and turret glitch we’re already fixed

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Visual ramp up glitch. Her beam grows but the opponent doesn’t see it. Meaning on my screen im avoiding the beam on hers its still attached. Turret bugs pop up frequently as well. Bad character

Want a link to a well researched video about it?

first of all bugs and visual glitches should have no effect on the perception of a character and what do u even mean. u realize her beams hitbox never actually gets bigger right? and attached?? its not a lock on hasnt been for like 5 years

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