I just think that it would be picked as a perk if that happened.
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In the AMA they said they were gonna increase the damage.
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Or just give it contact damage.
C’mon, embrace the baseball meme.
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Welcome back true one-shot combo
No one asked for this. 
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If they do that it would just be yet another blatantly idiotic decision to add to the long list of blatantly idiotic decisions they make that even a toddler could tell you, is an idiotic decision.
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Hog never needed changes to remove the combo in the first place.
It would make it mandatory over the 2 free shots on hook if they did that.
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Other than the fact that a tank having a one shot combo was cancer, broken, unfun and unengaging to play against.
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Still better than Ana, Widow, Zen, Sojourn, Tracer, Kiriko… so. Drop in the ocean. Hog doesn’t have a shield or other mit options and needs to be close to combo, and you have all that time to kill him or let him get close so I have very little sympathy for people who hate his combo but don’t equally hate everything Ana can do/speak out about that.
Yet it is one of the most countered abilities in the game, and most new heroes have a counter to it either with block, pull, speed, suzu, etc.
Hog has his combo now against some heroes, although not very reliable against many without the trap and yet he is still the worst tank and has been for probably 3 seasons. They then gave him pretty garbage to mediocre perks with not much to help with the ana problem and how hard she counters him.
If you find hog is cancer when he is this trash compared to heroes like Widow, pharmercy, ana, etc. then you have a major chip on your shoulder.
Hog needs better perks just to become mediocre as a tank. He really needs a major perk like 30% CC reduction to get even close to some of the other major perks. His perks are a joke compared to Ana’s perks for example.
Close = within a 20m radius of the objective
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Comparing doodoo to doodoo brotha…
doodoo to doodoo.
All the counters revolving around hook, involve relying on OTHER people to save YOU.
That’s the problem.
Again, a tank based around ONE SHOTTING PEOPLE, is a garbage can design.
No that’s just hit bad design shining through. When he can’t one shot people consistently, he’s garbage. When he can, he’s immediately broken.
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Not a single capture objective is only 20m x 20m. Also, most heroes can damage outside of 20m, just do that before overtime. Anyway, I’m not here to argue with wrong people about Hog (if they’re not going to give him a shield or w/e), all I did was specify what the devs said.
I’m aware, but Ana has ruined way more games than Hog ever could. They couldn’t even rework him properly, and he still has his combo, it’s just slightly more annoying to pull off. I’ve always said give him AOE team Mit when he Breathers (and nerf the combo) but they don’t listen.
I thought it would be neat if the perks added other effects to be used in another way but idk what. Knock backs, burning, idk.
If they really are going to increase its damage, I’m just wondering why don’t we revert the s9 changes and call it day instead of building these perks that let you go back to that after a bit.
Some of these perks already try to get rid of nerfs like sym getting another turret so they have a same effect pre health buff, or soj getting her 1 shot back during ult. And now more damage and more healing. I don’t get.
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Why u lying?XD
Swear to god ppl here lack objectivity
Mitigation on breather might be interesting tho ngl
You say this after saying one of the most subjective things.
My argument is that of numbers. Ana is way more popular than Hog, so she’s in more games. She Antis in probably all of them, ruining more games than Hog ever could. A support hero also doesn’t deserve a CC like Sleep.
Yes, maybe tanks like Hog, Mauga, and Orisa (and supports like Zen) need adjusting, but Anti (and Discord) being those tanks’ major balance tool is bad for the game. I only like Hog because as a tank main when the matchmaker gifts you supports that don’t heal or DPS that can’t hit/kill the side of a barn, I at least have an option to make up for them (I can also do it on Ball but he gets flamed by his own team far more than Hog).
Ana’s Anti needs to go, along with Zen’s lazy OW2 design. A lot of things need changing before you work your way down to Hog/Hook combo.
Being in more games does no mean ruining them, u dont even realize the bias u have and how it affects ur thinking
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Do you just parrot this without understanding what it means or applying it to yourself?
I explained my position. A support getting Anti plus the only hard CC outside the tank role on CD (not tied to ult) ruins games. More games played out of popularity = more games ruined.
Your turn to explain your logic or convincingly refute mine.
Ruining a game is not the same as punishing a tank, it night feel like it cause u like being an untouchable kaiju stomping around but it doesn ruin the game. Hogs going around solo looking for one shot combos while their teamates are left to deal with the tank alone ruins games