Something I think can help with the flawed medal system is to change what counts as an elim or an assist.
The idea is that now an elimination counts only when it’s a final blow. So now the person who dealt the final killing blow is the one that gets the elim count. And the rest who helped by either providing utility or by damaging the enemy get that as an assist.
We can now get rid of the final blow category. And maybe add the assist category as a category that can get medals. In order to make tanks and supports feel as though they have more impact. And possibly discourage players who only want the elim medals which now they can’t really get all to much now.
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As long as it doesn’t mess with my precious reset
I feel like this, too, would be misleading. This stat is also already recorded, I believe?
Here are some stats I think would make the game more clear:
kill/death average
damage/kill average
% of damage against role
focus fire/solo fire
damage/10 minutes during engagement
Then get really advanced and add a winshare statistic.
It’ll mostly merge solo kills and final blows. Which may help some people. But is overall a positive imo. But I also wanna make having assist be more helpful and show how you know just because you have the most kills it doesn’t mean that it was just you. It’ was more than one person.
I would split them into final blows and assists. Assists mean you damaged the hero, final blows mean you did the killing blow.
In general I’m focusing on the apex method which I think is more fair to the players. Granted I think it’s not perfect but I think it makes players feel like they had more impact. And could maybe work better here.
True, I feel having both assists and final blows can convey more accurate information for improvement.
Well yah. I think that people should get a better look at it. Just because you got a kill on someone doesn’t mean you didn’t have help. And people should be better rewarded for assists and final blows
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Or better yet, just remove the medals and call it a day.
It’s still misleading tho. If i do 199 damage to a target and you do the last one you would come out looking better while in reality i did all the work. And now players will argue which assists was really kills and which elims was really just assists.
Tl;dr there is no fixing the medals cause they are awful in the first place.
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Kills should be 75% of the HP or more done to the target. If you just do a final blow, then you just get 1 of that.
The other more unfair tracking would be giving the assist and getting the kill only if you do the final blow. Thats a bit weird taking into account that there are tanks there. If all heroes would be 200hp sure but vs a Tank, many times is 4-5 persons that hit that.
Not against it, though imo i have the feeling it would do anything.
Agreed. Eliminations is a trash stat that makes players, especially D.Va’s, Moiras, and Munkis, think they’re doing well regardless.
Whereas if someone gets a final blow on a target who would otherwise get away with 1hp, that final 1hp is worth as much as the previous damage to the target.
OWL coverage talks about final blows all the time, never elims.
What seems fair to me:
Should be counted as an elimination: decreasing at least 50% of a target base Hp + final blow.
Should be counted as an assist: decreasing at least 50% of a target base Hp. And any final blow without having decreased at least 50% hp.
All this in a certain period of time, of course. Deal 1 damage on a target = tic1. Let say 5 seconds later = tic2. If 50% of target base hp is decreased by the same dmg dealer between tic1 & tic2, then dmg dealer gets an assist. Replaced by an elim if he get final blow as well.
All final blows provide at least an assist, then check if min 50% Hp has been decreased by the same dmg dealer, if so, elimination is granted.
Getting an elimination for dealing just 1 damage is a joke.