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It is a thing when you need 1 more win to get a “rank up” and then you get a huge (or not) lose streak
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It isn’t.
It is probably more a psychological thing, you subconsciously push yourself into a worse performance.
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Interesting indeed. Nonsense, but interesting.
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There is no forced anything.
Streaks happen naturally.
Look at RL professional sports teams / players. They go on streaks all the time, and there is no MM to blame. it just happens.
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I have experienced the same tbh.
But there’s probably a logical answer to this.
Lets assume you were doing well in the first 2-3 of 5 games. They were probably stomps in your favor.
Then your mmr (being so volatile) started to increase and the game thought you deserved to be higher and so the following games get harder.
Making games 4 and 5 really hard.
This is all fine and well untill one or two team mates experience some inflation that didnt deserve to be there and are in over their head. Ultimately making bad decisions.
This is the point at which the winrate reverseing becomes noticed.
Also because it’s that last game before rank update that we need so badly.
This will happen for a few games untill the mmr recalculates you low enough for you to “carry” below your actual mmr.
Rinse and repeat.
Its like a see saw but its advertised to be a recalculation that eventually stabalizes at your skill rating.
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Streaks do happen. When those streaks start occurring at the same time is when it’s not natural. I haven’t played OW2 seriously enough to know if it’s still a thing but in OW1 I could literally say out loud when a win streak or a loss streak had begun and it had nothing to do with psychology, which is complete nonsense.
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Athletes do go in streaks, but they don’t get matches made by a system that’s trying to make “even matches.” Their losing steak is based on their play , or the team’s play. But, they are on the same team each game. Overwatch puts you in different teams, and it’s reacting to your recent play. So you’re not the only factor. The matchmaker decides.
This system does try to make even matches. And how could they do that if you’ve won a bunch but haven’t ranked up? They have to find people who haven’t been doing well. To even things out. So, unlike real sports, you DO get a different team each match. If you watch closely, you can even see the ranks change. Win streak? You’ll get bronze teammates. Losing streak? Okay, let’s help you out and give you teammates the same or higher rank.
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Overwatch 2 is not about who has the best team but who get the worst team.
That’s the difference
I’m about to watch. I hope they make fun of the conspiracy theorists.
To me it’s too obvious. Again, I lose 7 in a row, I managed to get a vod and it shows my entire team include me gets out played…. And then and only then (p1), I got 8 /2?? In the same rank range I lose 7?? And immediately get back to regular rank?
Ultimately it’s a waste of time. Why can’t I just win until my opponents are naturally the same or better?
And believe me 7 out of those 8 wins I carried.
why are you in every section trying to debate that match making isnt bad, go out of your room maybe or get some friends, you debating with articles from 7 years ago wont help your situation
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so when you get at least 7 wins in a row and about to get the 8th, you lose that game, does the game put you in harder games? in higher rank when you still in your own rank? or does it actually put you against good players, but with players that is MUCH lower than the enemy? cuz if the game want to test your skills to see if you deserve a rank, it shouldnt put you in a huge rank difference and expect you to carry with bad tank, bad second dps, bad supports that is struggling against higher rank players in the enemy team. its not about WHAT you as a player do, its about how the match maker should be and should put players with the equal amount of wins and skills and make a team out of it. its a TEAM BASED game, not a single person based game where you have to kill everyone without no healing, no shield or front line, and try to save yourself when you get jumped by 5 people at once. losers q does exist and i want anyone to debate me on why it doesnt exist and i dont need articles from 7 years ago when ow1 came out.
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I have a feeling when you get those really hard, sweaty games that you barely win, it was a game you were supposed to lose according to the matchmaker. It then allows you to climb.
On the flip side, when you lose games you’re supposed to win, you get loss streaks because you’ve demonstrated you don’t belong there.
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Thats not the case at all, it should be like this, a loss or 2 maybe even 3 is good enough to know i dont belong in that match, but the game actually puts you in a team that barely knows the game while enemy team has experts and all they do is spam ez or diff, i for example won 4 games in a row, according to mmr mine should go higher it should put me in high elo team to prove im not worthy yet, the thing is i get 7 loses one after the other allowing my mmr to drop down so hard i started to get silvers and peak silvers against diamonds and masters, i have now idea how that works and i have full evidence of this. They should disable this until they fix it or bring back SR and the old ranking system
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So, if you were to put yourself right now in Team USA for the World Cup in OW2, how do you think the team would do? I can tell you right now, the team would lose 100% of their matches and it would all be because of you. Individual performance absolutely
and undeniably matters even in competitive play.
You could make a the most balanced draft pick in NBA, replay the match 100 times and the results would be random, because of factors such as consisntency of performance and events throughout the game. Now if 1 of the players is always consistent, it doesn’t matter how many times you’d replay that match or how many times you drafted players around; the most consistent player would have higher chances of winning.
Just fabricated events and delusions. None of this actually happens. You’re simply bound to win, even if you’re playing terribly — in which if you are, you definetely deserve to go on a loss streak. Don’t come up with the 1 billion damage and 1 million kills and 0 deaths stats card, because objectively you’re just not doing what you should.
Put the best OW player up to date in your games and he wins 99.99% of the time in those games you think they are 100% unwinnable. There is no follow up argument against this and all it comes after is uncontrollable hate and repeatitive argueing for the sake of it.
Imagine still defending this mm even after hundreds if not thousands of topics about this problem. And then telling others they are delusional and in denial. Lmao the irony. 
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What’s more delusional and a target of a nonsensical conspiracy theory — what is it that you think it’s saner statement?
A: I’m not consistent enough to win most of the time, especially when the team isn’t doing so well and I need to really step up my game. If I played like a top tier player, surely I wouldn’t lose as much and surely I would win most of the game I think right now are “unwinnable”. I am only the factor that really matters and can control; I am the one who can control the tempo of the game, to turn one sided stomps in actual winnable games — which are bound to happen in ranks where there are a bunch of players, for multiple reasons, such as: bad days/games, off-roling, inconsistency, simply and finally going against better players and not being able to match their skill. The chances of all this happening, especially in ranks where there are a lot of players, are high and it’s up to the individual to be the one who can overcome all these events and be a winner.
B: Blizzard created a system that forces a 50% win rate onto their players. The system is rigged and everyone deserves to consistently climb with almost no effort, until there’s only GM1 and Top 500 players. All individual players should be matched with better teammates everytime, so the individual doesn’t have to work for his/her goal. “But then there needs to be a losers, right?” — “Uhm, well, humm…yeah, well…the MM is rigged, this game sucks, shut up. Stop defending this company loser.”
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Both statements can be true but its mostly just dumb luck. Most players don’t play enough games to be accurately rated and the system in place is so poor at determining player skill even with an appropriate amount of games its a joke. The swing in skill in every single bracket is enormous, something is fundamentally wrong it was NEVER this bad in OW1.
This is why I am not in favor of MMR at all. Just the trash it completely.