It’s a small gripe, but can we come up with a different term? CC means Crowd Control… yet it includes all manner of disabling abilities that only target singularly. There’s nothing “crowd” about that control.
Crowd control would be Sombra’s EMP, Mei’s Blizzard, or Symmetra’s Ult… because they can control… crowds… not just one hero…
Historically it has never been used exclusively in that manner. In WoW even if you incapacitate a single person out of a few it causes enough disruption to their flow that you are effectively controlling the crowd in a sense.
CC is everything what can effectively control the enemies movements. People falsely claims that CC is stun only, but boops like Lúcios soundwave and Ashes Coach Gun are CC as well.
Yeah I meant EMP
so a silence or disarm is not cc?
i would even broaden it to everything which somehow constricts your potential to use your hero, be it abilities, movement weapon etc. by directly impacting you and/or your team. (basically anything you hit an enemy with that is not pure damage)
but there is hard and soft cc, hard cc takes something completely away from you, like a stun or junkrats trap or hack
a soft one let’s you still use all of your things, but affect them somehow, like a slow, boop or increasing the cd of skills etc.
Yes, they are cc as well
But by definition of “Crowd” in Crowd Control, they cannot be… why is this hard to understand? At least the first response tried to stretch logic to fit it.
By definition, as you put it, Crowd Control should control… a crowd. And you can do that by disrupting a single person. For example, let say Sombra hacks a single Reinhardt that’s holding a shield up. The rest of their teammates are not directly affected by the hack, but the fact that Rein no longer has a shield for them to stand behind means that they must pull back, or… get killed I guess?
The term Crowd Control applies when an action is used to make a group behave in a certain way you want, this doesn’t mean that this action must directly affect every single person in that crowd. You can control a crowd by taking out one important person.
I know, but the point is the word has pretty much always been used even if it only targets one person. Stunning or incapacitating one enemy can, in many cases, control the crowd so to speak.
Basically this.
You are exerting control over some portion of a crowd and thus changing the composition of the group you’re confronting.
In MMOs it’s been historically used to incapacitate high priority targets. Imagine a situation with 1 glass cannon behind 4 beefy tanks. If that glass cannon is un-controlled, your approach has to vary dramatically in comparison to if you can stun-lock that target, and then deal with the other 4 at your leisure.
Controlling that one target changes the dynamic of the entire group. Thus: Crowd Control.
This term in video games is far older than Overwatch. You cannot expect the whole gaming community to change just because term is not exactly precise.
Just like “tanks” in this game have nothing with actual tanks.
Ultimately in MMORPGs and other games I’ve played it’s been like any sort of stun, silence, fear, slow, movement shift, barrier blockade and such.
Prettymuch… it’s been anything that messes with an opponent from my experience.
Isnt Crowd Control mean controlling/not-allowing-to-cause-damage-of the aggressive crowd without using lethal force? Like fire fighter hose water stream or pepper spray etc. So the game sense of it is every negative effect caused to your hero which is not damage.
Yea, it’s strange. Back in the early days of World of Warcraft “Crow Control” became redefined as a stunning/disabling effect. In actuality Crowd Control is a means to damage multiple targets at once. But that definition got hijacked by “AoE” (area of effect) that came from Dungeons and Dragons into WoW.
It’s funny as an old timer seeing young people use words incorrectly. Like NPC. I guess it’s an insult for people with a well accepted opinion. But it means "Non Player Character ", which is a term that, once again, came from Dungeons and Dragons into videogame RPGs. It means a character in the game that is not played by the player, a background character, story line character, etc… It’s used to retarded now. KeK as well. This is the Horde laughing from the Alliance point of view, now it’s a meme for 4chan trolls. People forget the true meaning and roots of things.