This is so stupid at this point. A cassidy head shot or a mei head shot or basically any head shot in the game is harder to land than a scoped widow. i bet hitting someone with an echo headshot from across the map is 100x harder than a widow head shot. So why is she rewarded more than any other hero with one shot dmg from anywhere on the map? Why does cassidy need three body shots to kill a 200 hp hero and widow needs two? is it cuz she has 25 less hp? Can you remove 25 hp from ashe or cassidy let their bullets one shot to the head? Can we do that with zen too? With everyone? Even if you did that it still wouldnt be fair cus then they would need unlimited range and a zoom option.
Dont fix hogâs one shot like you care then leave widow out there with mercy pockets. Whats 25 less hp to a mercy pocket that does increased healing to a widow being shot at? How do you kill the mercy without getting shot in the head by the widow? Were these devs make a wish hires or something? They have a hero that can 1 shot or 2 shot almost every hero in the game from unlimited range with wall hacks and unlimited access to high ground. Other heroes have to stay planed on the ground, have fall off, or shoot you 3-20 times to get a kill. Reducing widow hp did nothing. Same problem with sojourn. They just add a mercy pocket to stay broken. Add zen to the mix and you get one shot body shots to everyone. You land a head shot to a big tank head thats probably a 1 shot too with zen mercy buff debuff widow combo. How did this make it passed season 1? Who thinks this is balanced? Pretty sure no one does except people who play widow. There is no skill to landing two body shots or one head shot knowing you have infinite time to aim cus youre pocketed. No need to even move. Just stand there, smoke a cig, check your texts, and line up a head shop cuz mercy heals you more the lower you are. This is fair? This is balanced?
Edit: its so funny when i see ppl replying to a post 3 seconds after i post knowing they are replying to the title only. Ill show the same respect by not reading what they say too tho.
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they wont do a real nerf on her just like they wont do one on ashe or hanzo honestly this game is so massively freaking broken right now its not even freaking funnyâŚit makes me wish they would just shutdown the servers till they can actually fix things
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because it is literally all she can do if you remove her head shot guess what she sust worse ash in every way and would need giga buffed in other areas and i mean giga buffed.
mercy pocket is annoying on almost every hero s not a slight at widow and ash poket one shots widow maker faster then widow can
The trouble with removing Widowâs oneshot is that it makes her a worse Ashe.
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Id wager if this happened very few people would be sadder for it except for widow mains lmao.
Anytime I see a widowmaker in a match of overwatch I know one of two things will happen: Either Their team is going to have a bad time, or our team is going to have a bad time.
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This is so stupid at this point. A cassidy head shot or a mei head shot or basically any head shot in the game is harder to land than a scoped widow. i bet hitting someone with an echo headshot from across the map is 100x harder than a widow head shot.
I wouldnât compare apples to oranges. We have hitscan and then we have projectiles. For the sake of a good debate- letâs stick to apples and hitscan. Obviously any projectile is going have a hard time to land head shots. I personally think itâs easier to scoped in head shot with Ashe or Sojournâs railgun. But what is hard to some people is easier for others. I absolutely suck at widow and my skills in the sniper class is comedy gold.
So why is she rewarded more than any other hero with one shot dmg from anywhere on the map?
Actually Hanzo is rewarded just as much if he can land the headshot. The scary thing about Hanzo is he can do it from ANYWHERE on the map because projectile. Widow has falloff. But I will say this is where I agree because she does have far too much range. I say this because thereâs a lot of maps that favor her. Even some maps favor her enough for 1 or 2 checkpoints, then switch. Not enough cover and snipers wet dream. Thatâs more of a map issue but 
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I not sure why Blizzard lets her. I donât think removing her one shot is a good idea though. That would be moronic. One shot one kill is her catchphrase and in her lore. It would dumpster the hero.
I think an idea to help balance her is not letting her charge her shots as quickly and add more falloff. The 25 less hp is hilarious to me because sheâs basically at the state she was in Overwatch1. Itâs not an actually nerf. Thatâs where she should of been in the first place.
Edit: its so funny when i see ppl replying to a post 3 seconds after i post knowing they are replying to the title only. Ill show the same respect by not reading what they say too tho.
Does this surprise you? I feel like a HUGE majority of people do not read posts. I always read them through and even some of the crazy 100 long comments section before placing my own comment.
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Widow is dead simple to counter.
Literally any flanker, Winston ect ect ect.
Game isnât balanced for bronze bots that refuse to make a simple decision.
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shes a sniper, stop complaining.
Her whole lore is basically being the best sniper in the overwatch world. Some of you new people need to watch all the cinematics from overwatch so you stop whining so much. Iâm not a widow player but being good at her takes a lot of skill. Just because youâre bad and canât play corners doesnât mean other people should get punished.
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this voice actress really does her voice well
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Why would you ever compare these two? And in what universe is a widow shot easier than a cree shot? No recoil, no spread, very fast fire rate, itâs just as easy if not more so than widowâs scoped shot.
Also lets not forget he has one of the most handicapped kits in the entire DPS roster. Damage reduction on his mobility and ult, inbuilt aimbot for both his ult and primary damaging ability. Unnecessary extra HP now that he has extended fall off.
Widow is annoying but I can at least respect their skillâŚ
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Well for starters, sheâs a sniper, and Iâve NEVER played a game where a sniper cannot OHK you to the head. Any game like that Iâd imagine would require several dozen LMG shots to kill. Hell, a shotgun at 3 meters is usually a 1 OHK in other games. By all means, nerf her so she doesnât benefit from any damage buffs or whatever, but if a sniper canât OHK non-tanks to the head, especially in a game like this with no movement acc/deceleration and an aiming system that feels like itâs actively working against you half the time, what good are they? Youâd be better off cross-mapping people as Symmetra or Winston.
You want something that makes no sense? Why does Doomfist still have one of, if not the slowest AND smallest projectiles after losing like 70% of his CC and over half his damage? The least they couldâve done is make his gun useful beyond âin your face while pinned to a wallâ distance. Literally every other projectile in the game is either larger, faster, explosive, has a wider spread, or is more spammable and not reliant on CC for decent damage.
Why does AA kick in at all ranges even if you have an effective range of 5 meters?
Why has neither the damage nor ammo nerf been reverted for Genji after they removed the speed boost from the dps passive, which Blizz said is the reason for the nerf?
Why does Zenyatta, a monk who never even uses his legs, do more melee damage than everyone whoâs not specifically a melee character, even ones like Winston or Genji who by default should be stronger.
She wouldnât be so unfun to play against if there was more cover.
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Because sheâs a sniper, thatâs literally the reason why she exists. What kind of question even is that? In literally any FPS game you will ever find the point of being a sniper is to be able to one-shot to the head or deal heavy burst damage with body shots.
It made her more squishy. Sheâs only useful on long range because her SMG barely does any damage and hitting a headshot when the enemy is jumping right infront of you isnât as easy as you probably think. Once you get close to her and you arenât a complete bot then you will kill her with ease. Flank her or jump her with Winston and she will be dead 99% of the time.
I dare you to show your stats with her if sheâs so unbalanced. Most people who complain about how broken and easy to play she is usually canât hit a barn from the inside when they pick her.
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every flanker is good vs widow? Iâve been playing the game for a few years and I donât know that reaper can counter widow ⌠but seriously, reaper is also a flanker and widow counters him so how does each flanker destroy widow?
widow is currently dominating, what do you call balance?
widow is rewarded for risking nothing and gaining kill
characters like idk even reaper risk death because they have to be close and widow stands at the end of the map and kill everything without exposing himself to death unless there is better widow in enemy
but what does the lore have to do with the game itself?
most of the characters are not the same as in the lore because that would be unfair
letâs say reaper he is one of the most powerful characters in ov because he is almost immortal and in infiltration cinematic you can see at the end that everything is on fire so he is very powerful because solo he destroyed everything or in other cinematics but he loses because of his own stupidity but still like put reaper lore in the game, it would be impossible to play vs him
So lore has nothing to do with game balance
Widowmaker is broken conceptually since her sniper archetype is the core of the toxicity issue.
You canât nerf her without removing what she is meant to do. It would be like removing Reinhardtâs shield and hammer. Mercy without her staff and Junkrat with no bombs.
It is disgusting that she can one-shot you safely from across the map. She brings nothing but negativity to the game. Even if she doesnât kill you with the first shot, she can easily just follow up immediately with a zero-charge finisher.
I feel that she needs a rework. A heft rework. Blizzard should make a stand and show the gaming world that Snipers do not need to be in every FPS PvP game.
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if the game has nothing to do with the lore lets eliminate reaperâs ult, as well as monkeyâs primal, genjiâs blade, asheâs bob, soldierâs visor, hanzoâs dragon, kirikoâs kitsune, tracerâs recall and pulse, and many others that are in the cinematics.
People are asking to take the sniping ability out of the sniping hero. Major part of her character both in the lore and in game.
Widow doesnât kick people like she does in the cinematic, why would reaper need to set things on fire?
My main point is that you guys complaining about a main aspect of the hero is a very ignorant take. Sure, nerf widow until she becomes a worse Ashe but I expect all the other heroes to also deviate from their original characters and lose all their abilities. No more Bob, no more recall, no more DVA BOMB, no more Meiâs biofreeze gun, none of that. What about that?
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Bad take. The mechanic skill required to play widow is above 95% of all the heroes in overwatch (talking about DPS I can only think of Sojourn and Genji being the highest in the entire game).
Sure, letâs eliminate the sniper because the rest of the player base canât click heads with their mouses. Everyone becomes a no-skill junkrat, that surely will make the PRO league look very good and skilled compared to letâs say, CSGO and Valorant.
You can:
a) play corners as a support player because I know that most people in lower elos just play right in the open and complain about being sniped
b) play ball or winston as a tank
c) increase your DPS pool and learn how to play widow or hanzo to counter her
d) do all of the above and have a genji/tracer to harass their backline while your ball is diving the widow because: no heals = no team = widow canât do much because she doesnât play up close
e) what the video that the homie under my comment posted
She has a mercy pocket? Their ana/zen is vulnerable.
People need to take the time and learn how to play the game instead of keep asking for reworks and nerfs and buffs every time they get diffâd in a match. Do you think the widow player learnt how to be good at the game by shooting at random things until she got a kill? Positioning herself on the ground and hoping for the best?
There are SO MANY VIDEOS ON YOUTUBE teaching you how to be better at the game but yall are not ready for that easy trick.
I get triggered when people ask for a high-skill character to be nerfed/deleted from the game. Being able to play a random hero, anybody can do that. Mastering and being good at these high-skilled heroes is a whole different story.
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you could always go sombra and kill/spawncamp her. ive done it before but it is hard if she is getting pocketed or supported by her whole team. still in random games most teams ignore their widow⌠i know that personally since that usually happens to me as widow⌠my team ignores me lol. (im a solo queuer most of the time)
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for widows you need to increase the recharge time of the shot and at 100% charge it can kill 250hp, not at 70%/80% with fast charge
you wrote that widow is the best sniper in the world of overwatch and in order to watch cinematic, I explained to you why you shouldnât look at cinematic because reaper is a one-man army that destroys everything that stands in his way
