Can we temporarily disable widow

cause stats show it ain’t anecdotal.

the ho was getting played in every match prior regardless lmfao. it also has to do with the fact of orisa getting played way more now too, a tank hero who can’t contest her and can’t protect her team from her.

again stats show that aint true, so I can’t really help you out there.

With Brig or if she wasn’t going against mirror dive? Honestly probably.

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So…make them uncontestable too and further reinforce a hard hitscan meta

No thanks

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Sounds like something that the dev team would absolutely do so… get ready.

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stats this stats that how about you look at a stat for job employments

Just make it so your bullet damage doesn’t fall off specifically against Widow, easy.

That’s more likely than them meaningfully changing widow

I dont really have words scathing enough that forums allow me to say for this bad take.

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ahhh see?

“I got proven wrong so ima insult you”

Gooootcha buddy.

I will actually say that hero specific balance changes like that would solve a LOT of problems. The devs won’t ever though because it’s far too complex

For example, you could reduce the amount of healing that Juno and Brig receive from each other to nerf the comp without nerfing either individually fine hero.

But the devs just won’t, unfortunately

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i totally get this, and ik we’ll disagree here with your stance on hitscans, but without widow being good, i just dont see hitscans being prominent enough in this game to make me keep playing it.

i dont think i could take cree/soldier/ashe/and widow all being in the weakest states theyve ever been in, while tracer/echo/pharah etc all continue to thrive with buffs and lack of hitscan counterplay.

i miss when widow wasnt the only hitscan you could consistently carry on. if you want to carry on the other hitscans its sooooo map/team comp dependent.

Play a single game as Junkrat

Just one lol

Honestly as frustrating as she is, I’m glad so many people are seeing how messed up she is.

Like, I know it’s exasperated because of her mythic and Sombra being basically benched from the game. But, I feel like it can’t be ignored anymore. :slight_smile:

I dunno what you can even do balance-wise, but at least people see the problem with it.

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The same thing you’ve been able to do with her balance-wise since the beginning… nothing.

She’s a fundamentally flawed design.

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ive got like 5k hrs on this game and maybe 2hrs on junk from mystery heroes alone probably lmao. i just dont enjoy the non-hitscan dps

I hate snipers in FPS games for this reason lol

They’re either useless or infuriating due to the nature of being instantly deleted.

She needs more than balance changes or she’ll always ping pong between overpowered and somewhat bad, spending most of her time overpowered.

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See at least with other games there are clear weaknesses. slower ads, no movement abilities, no way to keep yourself alive consistently, etc etc.

In overwatch you’re trying to deal with a sniper, that has a movement ability to guarantee safety from at least the first dive, plays at an uncontestable range and has bodyguard supports to keep her alive. It just doesn’t work.

Hanzo at least half works (while still being a nuisance) because projectile is just flat out less consistent to hit.

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My point is that from the hitscan POV you think you’re weak

But you haven’t actually tried something genuinely weak. No hitscan is bad.

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Well that is a you issue.

The game was not designed to be a hitscans first everyone else second kinda game. Thats why its been nothing but degrading for everyone the more Blizz is unwilling to accept this truth.

You have a dozen or so shooters that fills this for you.

OW was the only shooter game for hundreds of thousands of people who have left because now the heroes they liked get punished for not being hitscans.

The meta is still hitscan DPS for most of the playerbase. Soldier and Ashe are still in every single game in both sides.

Double hitscan in both sides is still the most likely scenario from bronze to GM.

And Tracer is a hitscan.

You can consistently carry with any hitscan easier and harder than with almost any projectile or beam DPS hero. Thats why they are the most picked in comp. Instant massive damage from far away? Why even bother with anything else?

Tutorial 76 is literally Symmetra but easier and stronger.

stats arent everything buddy, thats why u are in dia