Can we talk about the Doomfist problem?

Where is the logic in buffing Doom after you already dumpstered Sombra? This effectively double-buffs Doom and as I’m sure your metrics will tell you, he’s in a disproportionate number of games right now and is probably the most annoying tank to play against.

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His ult buffs were necessary since his ult is complete garbage 99% of the time and only used to either run away or get empowered punch.

The punch thing however, is not really a buff, its more of a change, Sure it may be easier to hit people into walls, but its also harder to punch around walls. If u doom punch against a wall at an angle you can slide off of it and punch to the enemy behind it.

So overall: ult buffs good, fist changes discussable

Sometimes I think they want people to stop playing entirely.

If you ask people on the forums, they’ll tell you doom has more counters than anyone, which is completely false. CC and hack were the only true counters for Doom, and those have been nerfed into obscurity at this point.

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100% agree. I feel like most of the playerbase doesn’t realize how busted he is except for Doom players themselves.

He’s been by far the best tank for a while now. In the right hands the character is basically unstoppable. Insane to me how he’s dodged the radar for so long now.

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Thing is he doesn’t even need a good ult. He’s the best tank even with probably the worst ult in the game

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i wish doom was a 200 HP dps again… I don’t mind at all doom being super mobile and a killing machine if he pulls off his combos that requires skill. He’d be killable without block again and punishable if he messes up a combo etc.

I still think they missed the better alternative back when they launched OW2. Mei was probably the most hated hero on the roster at the time because of freeze and her being so difficult to deal with. They could have made HER the tank and she wouldn’t have even needed a rework to pull it off. Just give her a 2nd wall cool down and like 100 more HP. Maybe make iceblock bigger. Mei makes so much more sense as a tank than doom ever did IMO.

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Imo the problem is not buffing Doom as much as the thing they’ve done to Sombra, because since that Widow, Doom and Hammond have gone to better places with sometimes them being like mad tyrants

Ye cuz sombra is the only doom counter, right :joy:

Most issues vs doom go back to a skill issue on ur side. U got counters on every role just dont be a onetrick

I never said she’s the only one, but she was a huge counter especially in the Dps part, Cassidy is a good dps counter if they stop messing with his grenade every now and then

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Nah, sombra was not even the biggest counter and cassidy does a better job already and always did. Just made no sense what ure saying

Cassidy, phara/echo, torb, junkrat are all heros i’d wanna face less than a sombra and always has been

As tank, there are 2 options

Hog and Horse crutch. And Hog is so easily countered. I one tricked Hog to GM in OW1 but there are multiple matchups that you simply can’t play through with any amount of skill in OW2.

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So hows that a doom exclusive problem?

Turn the whole thing around and you will find that doom itself doesnt counter the tank roster by itself aswell so why should others?

But ngl, hog isnt really that big of a doom counter to begin with. Kinda matters much more what the rest of the team plays.

Supports mainly will be responsible to cucking a gd doom

Cassidy was more decent against Doom with the sticky grenade that had longer Hindering duration than now. Sombra was a huge counter, too. Imagine being permanently invisible waiting for the Doom to jump and hack him

Hes not the best tank, as long as you dont have a 1000h doom onetrick on your team the enemy team will most likely be easily able to counter pick him, so no, hes not the best tank ingame and yes he needs a slightly better ult

Excluding Cass, the other Doom “counters” you listed are easily countered by the hitscan arsenal.

This is the problem with Doom players saying he has multiple counters. He has heroes that can make his role more difficult, but if Doom’s team is smart, they can negate his counters with the right picks.

The only true Doom counters are CC and hack. Those abilities no longer exist in a capacity to truly counter Doom. He has free rein right now with a lousy hack and lousy Cass nade.

That new guy is better and easier to play