Make it so he has actual spread again. Laser-beam primary Soldier will never be balanced.
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Crazy how people complain about Soldier when Sojourn does everything he do but better
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Nerf both.
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Sojourn is overrated. Even in Master she’s mediocre at best. Maybe she’s great in Top 500 or Champ, but who cares about up there, lol? Honestly.
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Soldier is fine. Im assuming your a salty moira, sombra or pharah
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Bro seirously
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Soljorn wrecks in high ranks still…
Lucio, Zen, Kiriko, mostly.
Some sort of DPS has to be the best.
Currently the tierlist order in Masters looks like this.
Why would this order be bad? Aside from maybe Sombra should be lower.
Honestly, it’s actually pretty accurate, if you had to tierlist how Not-Frustrating it is to play against that hero.
TRACER
CASSIDY
GENJI
SOLDIER: 76
SOJOURN
SOMBRA
ECHO
ASHE
WIDOWMAKER
HANZO
REAPER
JUNKRAT
TORBJĂ–RN
PHARAH
MEI
BASTION
SYMMETRA
Not a great look when the tutorial character can dominate lobbies ranging from Bronze to GM. Imagine if Soldier and Moira were swapped and she were (or at least pre-S9 since she is now a mandatory survival pick) the one who could perform just as well across every rank, despite also being the most basic and low-skill character of her role. Not that I care for that term because who gaf tbh, but people would absolutely lose their minds.
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“tierlist order” based on what? Where are you getting this?
Pickrate.
But if it’s based on what the Goal is.
It’s minmaxing the “Most Fun to play as” and “Least Frustrating to play against” heroes, by pickrate.
Which is pretty close to what it actually is.
Putting aside stuff that’s going on in that tier list like Junkrat being higher on the pecking order than Torb and Pharah:
Widowmaker’s right in the middle instead of at the very bottom. And Sojourn’s right up there. I get the impression that most people don’t enjoy playing against her.
Well… yeah.
But it’s exhausting talking about Widow stuff.
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Ain’t that the truth. Yeah. Yeah.
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Incidentally I’ve been cooking on fixing Tank issues.
Ana is still a problem - #31 by GreyFalcon-11737
These are definitely the most frustrating damage heroes to play against, maybe add a pharah up there too.
Pick list usually goes by what is “easy” to get value with and what is powerful, which is what makes them frustrating.
Which is why a lot of people scream for moira nerfs, she can be frustrating to go against.
Maybe that’s not so much the issue.
Maybe call it “Fair”.
Like Tracer, feels “Fair”. In terms of Risk vs Reward.
Yeah she’s maybe annoying, but any value she gets is putting herself at a high chance of instantly dying.
By comparison, Widowmaker, she’s not putting herself at risk when shooting you. And you can’t really do much of anything to counter back.
Besides CounterSniping, Sombra, or forfeiting the objective fight to go play Widow WhackAMole.
And otherwise you got, Wiggle around in vain hope it does much, and sit behind a wall/barrier the entire game.
All are fine .all are fine
As a support, tracer can basically just oneclip you if you’re not looking for flankers 90% of the time, same for a flanking soldier or cassidy. Genji’s just a grasshopper that just keeps hopping and diving you.
And if you have to look at your own bum 90% of the gametime, you’re not getting much supporting done. If she had a smidgeon less damage, the time i spend looking for her would fall to only 50% of my time since i know i won’t die in a second if i blink my eyes at the wrong time.
A widowmaker you can shoot at if you know where she is, and only a really good one is an issue after her range nerfs.
But you can’t hide from any of those four behind a corner or a shield because it doesn’t take long for them to reposition.
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Sojourns only saving grace is her overclock and railgun. Her primary fire is worse than S76 with a much higher spread.