Neither of these heroes can do their jobs consistently because of the nerfs to their damage. Bastion especially because of the spread increase he received with his re balancing so long ago that left him never being picked.
Before, roadhog’s spread was fine because of how much damage he was doing. It didn’t matter because of how much damage he did. But now, because of his damage being gutted, his gun has become very unreliable.
It would do roadhog a great deal of good if his spread angle was reduced to 15 from 20.1, allowing him to be reliable again.
Bastion having both his crits removed and increasing his spread in sentry means that his reliable dps has been immensely reduced.
I think that he could stand to have his spread reduced to 2.4 from 3.
Now, as for general performance of the two, considering how things have changed, and bastions abysmally low pickrate, I believe they deserve buffs elsewhere.
I don’t think it would hurt for roadhog to receive an extra shot, reduce hook’s cooldown to 7, and change whole hog into a transformation ultimate so that it doesn’t get canceled out so frequently by all the extra crowd control.
As for Bastion, I think its only fair that they fix up his passive and buff his self heal so that he has an easier time surviving. Buff bastion’s self heal to activate after 0.25 seconds instead of 0.50 seconds, and revert bastion’s passive to give extra armor; 75 for sentry and 150 for tank.
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Don’t forget the cherry on top.
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Ah, right. Can’t forget how inconsistent his hook has become since they added los requirements to it.
See I have a hard time defending a Bastion buff due to the fact pirate ship exists.
Say all you want about it being dependent on the rest of the team to pull it off with Bastion, but Bastion makes that strategy infuriating to go against.
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But since pirate ship is still balanced, why not he move slowly in sentry?
Pirate ship is not a good basis to go against balancing him. That’s the only position a bastion pick is really any level of reliable. Any other situation he’s a liability.
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My idea is making him a Pirate. Like move in payload speed anytime. Maybe on cooldown
I don’t think we should be trying to detract from his lack of mobility, that’s supposed to be his weakness. The fact that pirate ship works is because he doesn’t have to move to be effective. It’s difficult to say how he should be changed to be good outside of that, so I’ve kept it simple in buffing his self heal and fixing his passive.
While in recon mode, Bastion can heal himself and shoot at the same time. Bastion will be able to defend himself while healing. Would that be a good buff?
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Considering he heals at 75 hp/second, maybe it would be a bit much. Im not sure.
Maybe not though.
Roadhog just received a hook bug fix and a shotgun buff.
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I hope Hog gets some looking at, he was my first tank I picked up when I got this game and have been wanting to pick him up more since I’ve gotten better with the heroes in general from when I start.
And also Blizz needs to take better care of their Disney Princess-Bastion. I feel bad that I do forget they’re a hero sometimes because nobody in my group plays them.
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Fix didnt work and that was a nerf.
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How is getting more consistent crit damage a nerf?
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What are you talking about? Can you show me? Because I thought you were talking about the fix to his alt fire.
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Nah, the binary spread nonsense where now all of his pellets that hit the head count as a headshot instead of the all or nothing nature of it prior.
Here’s the patch notes
All shotgun heroes got this change
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Well… Regardless, my point about tightening his spread still stands. That’s still good that they’ve fixed that, but either way his spread was okay before because of the damage output making up for it.
Yeah I hope they look at bastion soon.
Thing with roadhog is he doesn’t fill the role of dps or tank, he suffers from being too general, they need to give him a more specific scope, like giving him 300 hp and 300 armor, and revert the hook to 6 second cooldown, but reduce the damage he does drastically or flip it and reduce his hp to 400, but make his dps potential greater, he just can’t be used in any comp well.
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