Can we please do something about this decade old cheat?

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This cheat has existed since ow1 almost one decade ago

can we just insta ban every player who has interception library installed? valorant does it. also forces to recognize only one mouse.

watch this replay

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when the enmy tank recognizes he sucks and is patethic he switches to zarya for the pixel aimbot (stil has it since hammond)

notice how he stays for contours but as soon as the mouse leaves the area it instantly recenters and magnetizes to players countours

i noticed zarya was acting weird when she just balled in in 3rd point and confidently beamed down all the single targets in less than 2 seconds

this cheat has a characteristic harmonic movement as an 8 that is normalized with players aim, but to notice it is very simple just notice how when it leaves contour it mega recenters to player until it leaves contour agaein

i was playing zenyata and i didnt notice until late cus i was killing from afar but it became very apparent at minute 7:10 she just confidently and desperatly walked down to objective instead of grouping up with team

anyway my tank was very good so idint notice but when she killed my tank i started to pay atention cus pixel cheaters behave very similarly

bet if bliz tecnicians scan kernel of this dude has interception installed

problem is this cheat has existed well before ow1 was dead game now in ow2 free to play i see it every other game and it sucks

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Careful dude, you get hounded by forum trolls and your post taken down if you mention cheating.

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Is that supposed to be aimbot? When still having worse tracking than plat players and not showing predictable movements?

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Who the hell wants kernel level anticheat?

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To me, if you’re gonna come to the forum to complain about cheating, this is how you do it. You explain it, you give a replay code, you show the evidence. Hopefully Bliz takes a look.

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I do agree with that. I might not want Blizz at a kernel level on anyones machine. But it’s really refreshing to see an OP not just throw out hackusations because they got HS.

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Oh and yeah, I wasn’t even responding to your comment on the kernel… Just directly on the OP. I hear you on the kernel part though. It’s def a catch 22 in that way.

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Oh god I know it wasn’t a reply to me, I just think you brought up a really good point about OP knowing their stuff.

Kernel level AC is… it is definitely one of those things where you have to trust whoever has that kind of access to your machine. And all it would take is a data breach at Blizzard… it would be a disaster.

Which is why not being able to catch the cheaters this way is so frustrating.

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Valorant has kernel level cheat and they still have issue with cheaters.

So for me I prefer not having that, cause their anti-cheat caused other games, including Overwatch, to lag until I uninstalled Valorant.

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I love hackusations, and yes there are cheaters everywhere, but this is normal aim. I’m watching this on .25x speed and their aim is not magnetizing as you say, it is not re-centering, and I’m not seeing this figure 8 movement you are talking about.

Starting from the Zarya Swap

  • You lose the A point because enemy Juno ults, your Ram runs away for some reason, and your 76 does not get the memo and dies 4v1.

  • You win point B, and push point A again. Your genji and ram burst Zarya’s first bubble giving her 45 charge. Your ram and zen burst her next bubble giving her full charge. Your 76 has been afk on the previous point this whole fight and dies standing still to their echo. You lose point A because you do not have enough damage with 76 afk.

  • Your ram cannot out damage a full charged zarya, and your zen/mercy backline is too low of a healing comp to enable your ram to out-sustain her. Your ram is constantly backing up, spending time during his burst phase blocking. Your ram is unable to contest a high charge Zarya because your team fails to focus fire, or swap your backline to enable the ram to out-sustain Zarya.

  • Point B your team engages way to early, blow two ults, and because the point is not even active the enemy team just kites your team backwards. This gets your ram killed, and your zen and 76 refuse to retreat and die while your mercy and genji sit back on point. Your ram staggers and you lose point B.

  • Your mercy, zen, genji all stagger by walking into the zarya, mercy, juno. Your team does not group up after this, instead your 76 runs into the enemy team and dies, your mercy dies next. Both those heroes had ults. Your respawns are able to punish the enemy zarya for killing your staggers but you do not have the ability to stop the rez. Your team takes the 3 v 5 anway.

  • Your genji dies to a Cass ult but is extremely lucky to almost instantly respawn because of the quickplay group spawn being very lenient. This allows your team to push onto the final point with a 1 person advantage and ult advantage with Mercy ult.

  • Zarya feeds but again you failed to guard the rez! They make the same mistake right after. This is a mess of a fight. You guys win because enemy mercy decides to guardian angle into your rams punches aimed at the zarya lol.

So What Actually Happened? Your team keep pushing the last point, I’m guessing because the ram wanted to force ults, which is what you want to do with the final points, but you do not want to use ults yourself or have anyone risk their lives. The last points are extremely difficult to take, and are usually not worth trying for. Unfortunately not everyone gets this memo and your dps die fighting for these final points, everyone staggers, and ults are wasted. You would have won the game if you had simply farmed ults and defended a point rather than waste ults on the final points and staggered non-stop. Even with your horrible team comp.

Did The Enemy Zarya Carry? The enemy Zarya did seem better than some of the lobby, but the game was in their favor. Your team comp with zen/mercy only works by focus firing down enemies, which you mostly did not do. Zen/mercy do not have the healing output to take long fights, which meant your ram spent most of his time backing up while blocking, your dps mostly went unsupported because zen/mercy were trying to keep ram alive (which their kits are not built for). The enemy team also had an advantage in your 76 going afk and being kinda bad, and your genji being a low damage hero who gets most of his value through ults that were really bad in this match.

Even if the Zarya was hacking, which I strongly do not think they were, the reason the enemy team even had a chance at winning this match is because of your bad team comp and horribly misplaying of the map. Even if she had perfect aim, they just would not have had enough of an impact to recover from the early match snowball.

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Untill they get banned for witchhunting thats what happened to me once

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sigh the cheat has lots of parameters just on aiming behaviour (50+) and theres also aiming artifacts the cheat is in essense a pixel aimbot that agregates player input and corrects it towards a player configured x and y relative to the team color boxes, the correction can be personalized too

once you know how this specific cheat works you can tell how the cheater moves ; i.e a direct linear aproximation with drunklike aim that is miracously effective and stays mostly on contours(the most optimal configuration) but the normalization point can be any point in the detection box starts at players nameplates and ends in last pixel of players feet

the aimbot is sh1tty but it works enough to be a pain specially if you encounter them every x games

I don’t care if I vs them in comp cus normally aimbotters are very predictable to solve once you know someone is cheating but on casual normalplay is annoying you cant have really a decent fun experience

they have very characteristic “just depending on aim recklessly approaching enemies with a zero brain and much confidence to kill behavior”

I played vs tank as t500 and diamond as dps I know how players aim, behave and how the game works

!main problem is this cheat is free; its on github you just need to google certain keywords is very easy to find and execute as long as you can compile any programming project

the issue is that this is an external pixel aimbot, it doesn’t access the game memory so the aim isnt perfect (no perma centered etc) just fudges a sweetspot depending how the pixel detection is configured. the telltale sign is consistent dpi differences when leaving contours and when the pixel box overlaps with otherplayers … if you dont know how coding works its really hard to understand because the guy who made the cheat made it pretty hard to tell unless you know the specific configurable parameters but once you know them you can tell.

its a cheap aimbot. but it works but whats annoying is that i see them very often specially at late hours. very common. so sad feels like im wasting my time.

the aim looks chaotic but its all configured and once you know you can tell the player input from the cheat interpolation.

I was glad to return to ow2 cus they are fixing their sins a bit making decent game content but somehow this cheat hasn’t gotten banned/detected since ow1

the good thing the solution is simple just ban whoever has interception library installed.

on kernel also works wonders if blizzard taking down the github repo.

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Listen dude I’m not saying you are wrong about them being a cheater, but everything you are describing I cannot see in this replay. Watching it on .25 there is no noticeable weird mouse movement, their aim is not even that good, their kills are all deserved because players were making mistakes. In other words nothing in this vod shows someone benefiting from cheats, they are even dead for a couple important fights that your team lost. (if you want to point out any specific timestamps I’ll check them out)

It is against the rules to go into too many details about cheat programs, so we have to keep everything basic, but the program you are describing is not just compile and run. That would get you detected within 30min, it is a lot more complicated then that, and most people do not even know how to get past the compiling step lol.

Cheating is lame. I know how they work, I know what it takes to make them work, and all the things you have to do to keep them from being detected (which blizz is actually pretty good at regardless of what you might read on these forums). Again I think cheating is lame, and it says some pretty bad things about you if you even try it. I know about the other stuff that we should not get into as well, if you have a butt ton of money anything is possible, but again, super lame and you are dumbass if you do that. It is all interesting stuff to write a university essay on, but not something we should get into too much detail about.

I’m not blowing smoke up your behind, I do not see what you are seeing and I do not think this has anything to do with any lack of knowledge on my part. I’m not attacking you or your knowledge or your rank. I just do not see this cheating you described in this vod. That is why I wrote out why each fight was lost, which had nothing to do with this Zarya’s aim (like the soldier going afk for an entire fight, or all the staggering)

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The aim does not look at all suspicious to me. Just normal ok aim.
The targets arent making the aiming much harder either with their movement.

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And by ‘take a look’ you mean wait until some ban wave, delete their account, and then let them make a new account five minutes later so they can rejoin the rest of the cheaters here.

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I don’t know, if it really is an aimbot that tries to miss a lot to be realistic, it’s kinda garbage. I wouldn’t worry about it.

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welp thats 9 minutes and 6 seconds ill never get back
warden mate, stop trying to sound like your an expert in your insane ramblings nobody is impressed
and your “cheater” has aim like a gold player and the awareness to boot.