Can we just do a small increase in Genji's DPS?

Honestly, can we just improve his fire rate and damage a little bit and nerf ult charge to the point where he’s useable and not broken? Dont revert him back to June fully, but still make him better than what he is right now. He’ll have a decent, reliable base kit at the least with less ult on top of that.

Yes i know, I’m wasting my time here saying this.

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Genji needs help. His fire rate does need an improvement and I think you make a lot of good points.

I take a long break from the forums…and you’re still suggesting Genji changes. Good to know some things never change

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I’ve been severely slowed down on the posts to have them get some attention on genji too. All i want is this:

  • To do a small net buff to his dps with a ult charge nerf, and fix the bugs that he has with his swift strike, deflect, and wall climb.

Only to realize I’m just wasting my time since its been months and he’s still stuck at the state on where he is now. Glad that other heroes are getting noticed but i wish they would add more than just 3 heroes at a time in one patch and include genji into one of them.

At this point, i feel like im beating a dead horse since not a single ounce of attention has been put onto him. Only attention i can think of that he’s gotten since the nerfs is that bug they fixed for his one skin :confused:

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Oh hey, you’re back. I was wondering what happened to you.

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I want genji to be good to face, I say this as a hanzo main. I don’t mind genji getting a damage buff, Idk about a fire rate buff though. Increasing his damage means his dps goes up further if he’s able to spam it more frequently. It should either be a damage buff or a fire rate buff, I rather he gets a damage buff because it means players have to be more accurate at landing their shots to deal more damage instead of having a fast fire rate and simply spamming it at close range. I will always take the skill route above ease of use as long as the damage is acceptable. The thing about blade is that its too good when paired with nano, my suggestion to remedy nanoblade and make his regular blade strong is increase the speed at which genji slashes his enemies at the cost of not being able to get a damage boost from nano.

This means genji’d regular blade without nano is actually viable now because he slashes more and is faster, the nano would still add the armor that it currently does and a speed boost on top of that and thats it! Genji could still benefit from nano without going around technically one shotting everything however his faster slashes could out dps some heals like an ana nade or a brig pack. This is how I would balance him

Just want to make two points separately from your take:

Ana’s Nano:

  • Are you suggesting to net change ana’s nano to make it more defensive and speed based and removing the damage bonus portion of it? That would be interesting to see. I wouldnt want genji to be the only one exclusively removed from damage boosted abilities however. It would be unfair to him and massively nerfing him for no reason while other heroes keep their damage boost capabilities from ana.

Genji’s Swing Recovery rate:

  • His blade is currently at 0.9s per swing. How fast are we talking about making his swings for making it faster? Like to 0.7s or something?
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So how long do you think before the number of Mercy avatars overtake the genji avatars on this thread ;p

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We fight you wanna know why? Because HEROES NEVER DIE.
Except genji.

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Off topic, but welcome back Cinnamon!

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i havent seen any known absurd anti-genji people here as of lately, reason why i’ve created this because the negativity has left the forums for the time being :sweat_smile:.

watch me speak too soon.

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inb4 Egryn comes back again

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I know you feel it wouldn’t feel fair if genji was not benefitting from the damage compared to everyone else but believe it or not, hanzo already got that treatment. Hanzo’s dragons used to be able to boost its damage from nano but blizzard nerfed it because it would chew through transcendence. I never understood how it was not ok for dragons to kill through trans but blizzard somehow finds it ok for blade to kill through it with nano. So all blizzard has to do is give genji the hanzo treatment, only allow the damage boost when hes not in super but remove the damage boost as soon as he blades however he will keep the other benefits like granting him a speed boost and a small boost to armor so he wont get deleted instantly.

As for the slash speed, you say its 0.9? Man it feels like genji is swinging a greatsword rather than a katana sometimes lol. Yeah dropping it to maybe 0.6-7 would be a great start. Being able to swing faster means he can slash more often in his ult which means more dps for his regular ult without a nano boost. This makes him just as deadly as nano blade without the need of the boost itself but not so deadly that he can dash from player to player completely one shotting them.

I dislike Genji’s rate of fire. I’d prefer if he was built more as a sustain projectile user. Imagine an 3-round burst star shuriken or a rapid fire higher speed lower damage. You fire like 5 shurikens very quickly back to back to back without much gap. Rather than a 3-star fan its a 5star spam.

Its really hard to use the character that inconsistency is part of why he’s bad in my opinion. I would certianly play him more often if he had something like that. I feel useless on the character most of the time like I do widowmaker or hanzo when I don’t have sustain fire built in.

His Genji senses are tingling.

:eye::lips::eye:

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Funny enough he bears a Widow icon now.

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To be fair nothing is wrong to be straightforward and honest and still polite. It gets the information through peoples’ minds such as myself.

And i honestly don’t mind Genji having a few small buffs. It’s not his or your fault Smurf genjis abuse him in Gold

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I try so hard to play genji but i get nothing i try to kill ana she nades herself and makes me anti, try to kill zen the other healer heals him and the zen 2 shots me, try to kill Mccree he flashes the ground and i am dead in 1 sec.Try to kill mercy she just flies away.I fell like genji is even worse than before he got those 4 buffs.(with just faster firerate)

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The only time Genji is good is skirmishes

Tracer is borderline a better Genji

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Do not speak of that name. I must get the anti-egryn spray now in here :eyes:

I think it was nerfed due to the fact how grav + nano dragon was an unstoppable combo due to the fact it created a meta. Whereas genji never had a meta besides June when he got mega buffed to begin with. Correct me if im wrong on this though.

The problem with removal of damage boosted blade from genji is that his ult is much riskier than hanzo’s considering how genji has to be in the fight to get value from his ult while hanzo does not. Base blade dps is a joke whereas nano/dmg boosted blade helps genji eat through the dumb insane healing he endures through every time since base blade dps is laughable. Which is why nano/dmg boosted blade is healthy for him to be viable. Only fair nerf i see to blade is ult charge or tweaking the interaction with nano to make it more defensive and speed based so also hanzo does not feel “left out” from his nano nerf a while ago.

But lets say ana’s nano removed dmg bonus for all but made teammates tankier and faster when nanoed, a buff such as 0.6 or 0.7s for the sword swings would be a good compensation change for genji. If genji is not allowed to insta swipe and insta delete targets anymore, at least increasing his dps for his base blade would be better. Since current 0.9s swings just gives people enough time to just laugh at his base blade damage since its a joke. If theres a workshop mode to test that theory, i wonder how 0.6s/0.7s swings would fare in this game.

I find it odd though because base blade was balanced back then until this current state of the game happened. Now its just a laughable, weak ult with the amount of CCs, healing, and peeling this game has. He has to be within melee range to get value that also puts him at great risk, which is why I can see why genji keeps the damage bonus value while hanzo does not. Hanzo’s risk is far lower in his ult than genji’s, and his base blade damage gets outhealed so easily and gives enemies so much time to insta delete him before he can get a kill. Thats why i find it fine for genji to keep his dmg boosted blade. Only then i can be accepting if lets say ana’s nano gets net changed for loss of dmg for more speed and bulkier path. And then genji was able to have increased dps such as faster swings as you suggested. So that his ult doesnt get outhealed so easily anymore.

would be cool to see. Imagine that being changed in OW2 lol. Although i do like how genji’s design is. He just needs better dps for how inconsistent he is in all honesty. Just for now as a startup, but not making him June state again. Just to improve him better than where he is right now and take it from here so we dont blow him over the top and make the same mistake again.

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Don’t you hate when you girlfriend in the lore just runs away from you? Sad times

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