Can we have actual balancing?

Every single rank chooseing McCree every time. Every single rank choosing the same 2 supports. Every single rank NOT choosing Symmetra or Bastion.

Let’s GO BLIZZARd please you are my favoreite company of all time. Please show me you care again.

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Bastion kinda op tho :eyes:

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Blizzard has always been bad at balancing their games. That will probably never change.

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the perfect balance in a game like Overwatch is an unattainable illusion as perfection is subjective. There will always be stronger and weaker heroes. But it is possible to raise all heroes to a usable level and to slow down too strong heroes.

But Blizzard does a very good job of failing to do this. Blizzard lacks a philosophy, a guiding principle for balance or is constantly changing. Half a year ago, before the + -25 HP patch, Overwatch was in a pretty good spot, but this was undone with the following patches. This shows the absence or the constant change of a guiding philosophy.

Such a philosophy is likely to come with OW PvE. However, it is also made very easy by deleting a complete player per team and thus removing a lot of complexity from the game, which makes balancing much easier. But this also shows the inability of Blizzard when they have to make a game simpler in order to be able to balance it and follow a philosophy.

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very true. there will always be certain heroes that are better then others. even if hypotheically blizzard finds a way to make each character have an equal impact on the game (impossible), some characters will even be easier to play mechanically for instance.

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No this is false. StarCraft has always been fairly balanced.

StarCraft 2 is also, fairly balanced - but it has a lot of one-sided strategies and inherent limitations with how the three races were built. Protoss tier 1 units, for example, could never be viable without some tier 3 backbone support.

Overwatch could be balanced had Blizzard from the outset, not intentionally imbalanced the roles on purpose.

OW isn’t balanced because they care more about lootboxes than fair games.

Are you new here? Honest question because this has been an issue for years and years now.

Hate to break it to people in this thread, but any MOBA style game (with every hero having a unique ability from their ultimate down to their primary fire) is ALWAYS going to have a meta (or most picked heroes) every single patch.

This is consistent in every single game that is similar, and always will be. When heroes are completely unique people will find the best strategy each balance patch.

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You don’t want actual balance, though. You just want the meta to shift, no matter what it does to balance.

they really needs months to nerf mccre and bap… what a terrible team balance

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I agree starcraft is the one game blizz has done a pretty good job at balancing. Nothing else really though.

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You kinda left out the second part that goes with that. Which is you can also fight the pick disparity where all heroes should be able to maintain a reasonable place. And should not fall into trash or op. Kinda a important part to leave out

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As its been far to many characters have been left trash for years.

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Perfect balance is unattainable and perhaps even undesirable however the disparity is far, far too high when you have stuff like the top hero being used 30x more than the bottom.

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Nerf McCree.
How many times must it be said?
Must be such a controversial topic since as of today it’s been an entire month since an Experimental card came live.

it still doesnt matter…cause everyone seems to be incapable of getting themselves out of the “meta or lose” mentality…doesnt matter how balanced the game is…people are going to play meta regardless (and theres always a meta) because thats how theyre wired…

its not “meta provides the perceived best possible chance to win”…

its “meta IS the ONLY way to win”

until people get themselves out of this mentality its never going to matter how well the game is balanced (which has been perfectly fine on many occasions before and it also didnt matter)

Balance is a dragon you’re never gonna catch. You won’t even touch the tail of the thing. Unachievable.

However making all heroes feel good to play, making everyone feel impactful and inhabiting a unique niche is a much more realistic goal. The last exc was a good start on how to do that. They just need to be brave and execute it.

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b-b-but symmetra bsuted theres 5 symmetra icons in top 500 shes op trust me dude.

Reaper buffs when???