I know it sounds silly, but blizzard likes to listen to community outcry. We symmains have cried for 3 years please, please just buff her!
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especially now, after she has been annihilated!
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Put turrets on a 15 second cooldown but all recharge at once
Also have her primary ramp up much quicker
Boom, far better hero as sheâd be able to somewhat cope with the tempo of the game.
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the issue is that, while this movement would be backed by everyone playing symm and probably not many others, the deletebrig movement is backed by everyone who doesnât play brigitte, which is the overwhelming majority
(I know I used hyperbole)
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Sheâs fine actually, Sym mains are the last people I would talk to about balancing Sym
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Not a Sym Main FeelsGoodMan
Itâs almost like you shouldnât âmainâ heroes in this game
Especially the niche ones
Symmetra deserves no love
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Sheâs fine actually,
Her stats say otherwise
Sym mains are the last people I would talk to about balancing Sym
Yeah that approach really worked out well with the two reworks didnt it âŚ
Itâs almost like you shouldnât âmainâ heroes in this game
Considering youâre punished by losing ult charge by switching, u clearly should. Its also known that you can climb rank by onetricking.
@ PĂMÄĹĹ´ÄÄÄ69
I have a buff idea for Sym: h ttps://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/idea-to-finally-balance-syms-primary-give-sym-a-lightsaber/238296
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Iâll gladly join the movement. Sym really needs some help⌠esspecially as a niche character whose niche was pretty much taken away.
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Each turret shouldnât take longer to charge than hook.
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Firmly behind this. Symm is honestly one of the funnest characters to play, would love to see her viable.
My biggest gripes is how long it takes to deploy her teleporter, and how long the cooldowns on her turrets are. Her turrets take too long to recharge for how easy they are to destroy.
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The stats will always favor some heroes over others. This is nothing new and unless you are a statistician Iâm going to ignore your opinion over the statistics
So, are you a statistician?
Yeah, we no longer have the BS lock-on and no longer have the infinite shield generator!
Praise be to the OW team
Nope. There are many times that sacrificing ultimate charge to change your character is the correct move.
Source please.
Also, are you a statistician?
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The stats will always favor some heroes over others.
Yeah, the more powerful ones.
I mean donât you find it a little strange that Sym has never been favoured during any of OWâs 14 comp seasons?
This is nothing new and unless you are a statistician Iâm going to ignore your opinion over the statistics
So, are you a statistician?
I donât have to be a statistician to argue data; insisting otherwise is an appeal to authority
Yeah, we no longer have the BS lock-on
Yes we do, cf. Moira, Winston
no longer have the infinite shield generator!
You mean the shield gen you couldnt be bothered to destroy?
Nope. There are many times that sacrificing ultimate charge to change your character is the correct move.
The fact that youâre referring to it as a sacrifices just proves the fact that it is a penalty, and encourages not switching
Source please.
The existence of bronzeâ>GM challenges, the existence of hi rank onetricks (cf Luminum, FTK Computer, Hoshizora).
Also, are you a statistician?
See above
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You need to google what appeal to authority means.
Iâm asking if you have the credentials to properly analyze the data and come to a logical conclusion.
You do not, clearly, and as such I am justified in dismissing your claim
Incorrect
Done dealing with you. You, like most others, simply double down on your erroneous position unfortunately.
I hope you come to understand the value of listening to people who are properly educated in the topic (statisticians/developers/etc)
(Not me necessarily, while I am a mathematician I am not a statistician despite taking several statistics courses)
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No, sheâs in a really good spot.
- Signed Symmetra main with an 80% win rate.
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You need to google what appeal to authority means.
Ok. From wikipedia:
âAn argument from authority is a form of defeasible argument in which acclaimed authorityâs support is used as evidence for an argumentâs conclusionâ
You are suggesting that because I am not a statistician, I have no authority regarding statistics, therefore my opinion is meaningless.
Rather that debate the message of the data, you would rather discredit the messenger, which also make it ad hominem (again using wikipediaâs own standards).
You do not, clearly, and as such I am justified in dismissing your claim
Translation: âI canât refute your argument with facts, but I CAN attack your credentials instead so I donât donât have to (whilst also not revealing my own credentials)â
Incorrect
Lol, you didn;t even bring any fallacies into it this time, you just flat out said âincorrectâ and left it at that with no reasoning XD
I hope you come to understand the value of listening to people who are properly educated in the topic (statisticians/developers/etc)
I hope you come to understand how backwards the idea is that you need to be formally educated in a topic to debate it.
Done dealing with you.
k, bye o/
@Campari
Just because a hero has a small community of people who are good with them, doesnt make them good. Jut like how some people being unable to play Widow in S1 didnât make her not OP.
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To make sym better
Step one
Remove her slow on turrets
Step two
Add 1 more turret
Step 3
Increase time of teleporter by 2 seconds
Step 4
Decrease time of charge
Step 5
Reduce damage of her balls or fire rate
Step 6
Add 50 more shields
Step 7
Rework ultimate into a massive energy boost
Damage from gun increased by 200% and health by 500 for 6 seconds
Step 8
Return shield giving as an extra ability
Step 9
Remove regen on shields and charge
This is the beginning of the end of an informed society
You are, literally, part of the problem.
So youâre just completely ignoring the fact that you were shown to be appealing to authority and engaging in ad hominem?
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