The DPS power creep, and the evolving pace of the game, have made Zen gradually more vulnerable. Could we allow Orb of Harmony to heal Zen by about 15 per second if he’s very close to it? Or buff the recharge time on shield health in some way?
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I’d be happy if they just shrunk his hitbox to be in line with everyone else’s. I’d trade it for nerfing discord back, even.
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Allow discord to pass through enemy barriers, and zen pickrate would shoot through the roof
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Also…increas rate of fire by a small tick???
That ability is broken enough without such a buff. just trim his hitbox and be done with it.
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if they revert the jjonak right click charge time nerf and allowed discord and harmony to be placed while reloading i would be more than happy.
Also not remove orbs when you cancel a right click charge with melee.
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Devs seen to want Dive.
And Discord wasn’t designed to deal with doublebarrier.
Discord was designed around the only shield guy throwing out firestrikes every few seconds
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Idc if the devs want Dive, GOATs, Beyblade or whatever else. Discord is too strong already, it doesn’t need buffs, especially ones that make it so the only counter is to run and hide behind a wall for 3 seconds.
Zen can become op by the slightest tweak… u cant increase his damage or his heal.
He pretty much is stuck
How exactly are you getting killed by discord, if you are behind a barrier?
My way to Buff-Zeny
reduce his discord orb to 20% and give him a mobility ability like Moira’s Fade.
He need survavility “Not more damage”
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How exactly did it get applied to me if I am behind a barrier?
I kinda want a speedier left click though.
Like…just faster flying balls of fire.
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And why would it matter if a damage amplifier is attached to you, if you aren’t taking damage?
It would matter because apparently since it got applied to me that means there is barrier downtime that gave him a chance to apply it to me and if there is enough time to apply a discord onto me there is enough time to put a bullet in me.
So why would it matter if a discord as applied to you when there wasn’t barrier down time?
What do you mean why would it matter, that is 30% extra damage you receive from all sources, ofcourse it matters if I have that thing on me when I shouldn’t have it behind a barrier.
I feel like this is a “I don’t think snipers should be dived on” discussion.
You’ve lost me. Point is, it’s the most powerful debuff in the game and he has the easiest time applying it without having to aim or manage a cooldown, he doesn’t get to apply it behind barriers forcing people to run and hide behind walls just to get rid of it.
The point is the game has moved on since 2016.
And unless the devs throw up some huge gimmick, the only way DoubleBarrier is going away, is if it’s threatened by persistent close range damage.
And Discord would be a really effective way to make that happen. And it’s pretty unreasonable to wait 2-3 minutes it would take to find a gap in DoubleBarrier, to even begin a Dive.