How doesn’t it immediately pick up on stuff like this.
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heh i saw that video a bit ago on flats channel. they had a lot of spinbots in the previous overwatch version as well. i never seen a spinbot hacker myself but i seen a lot of posted replays on the forums of them
sometimes i wonder if the hackers are getting smarter and use a ton of codes that normal applications/background programs use. maybe thats why false positives are happening now since its a war and the hackers found something groundbreaking
i guess its just a neverending arms race with innocent casualties getting blasted sometimes
Hi Ayanga.
From my guessing I think the cheaters are console players. The replay says that it’s a unranked game meaning that console players and PC players play together. Console players has a cheat device called a “xim”. What it does is that it gives console players the ability to use mouse while having aim assist and 0 recoil.
This is the main reason to why PC players don’t want console players with aim assist turned on in competative since it’s already a massive problem in multiple console games. These companies that makes xims constantly comes up with newer devices and updates so they keep working.
That is NOT! a xim I’m a console player myself I assure you xim aim isn’t this.
I’m pretty sure you need a xim to still use cheats outside of only using aim assist and mouse. The videos I’ve seen is always in unranked or on console so that’s why I believe it’s the case.
A xim is a physical device and not a software which is why it’s probably harder to detect.
what is there to explain? its non existent just like matchmaking
what exactly are you expecting from greedy pathetic meme clownfest fanbase milking company like bli$$ard?
they literally DONT CARE AT ALL, just look at this forums moderation lmfao
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It probably takes too much effort and resources to check for certain things happening during the game. Not to mention the fact that you can easily amp up your mouse sensitivity and spin the character yourself.
But thats why we have a report system. To catch cheats like these in action. Even better if you can send them a replay code to verify this.
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lol plenty of pc players use cheats what are you talking about? Just look up Jay3’s youtube channel. so many cheaters in ranked pc using aimbots, walls, etc. It’s actually harder to cheat on console due to the closed nature of their ecosystems and not being able to install outside software. Xim is hardware that allows for m+k but it won’t override the in game console
settings for the controller so you might get aim assist but you wouldn’t be able to spinbot like in that video.
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I’m pretty sure xims could be programmed to use cheat other than just allowing aim assis on m+k. Maybe it was a Cronus Zen that could do it?
question for you: do you play on console? do you know that there’s no hardware that can tweak the software like that?
there are no mouse and keyboard settings on console. It literally has to work with controller settings to try and emulate the mouse and keyboard feel but it will never feel like playing on a pc so movement will always be slower regardless of whether you use a controller or Xim.
I’m pretty sure I saw a someone using Cronus Zen with while doing borpa spins 1 or 2 years ago but maybe I remember it wrong.
But yeah I understand what you say. Xim devices are a little bit slower to turn I would guess but it feels like playing something more similar to M&K but with aim assist and 0 recoil.
Xim player in R6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xTrPhNeWL-w
Xim on OW2
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UByvOd5FIh0
No actual coders and hackers are hired to make this stuff because the players utilizing those hacks buy them.
It takes little effort and all the hacker programmers need to do is “promise” more wins and design an undetectable coding.
Its the player who gets punished, but never the programmers who make off with the money already.
So in a sense hacks are more of a scam just to feed off any competitive environment.
Think about it. If you have a full business who does nothing, but make hacks for every popular game, just how much money could you potentially feed off of from dumb desperate gamers?
Quite a lot and its why no such “anti-cheat- team” will ever be enough to stop hackers right out, because they never hit the source. They only go after the player who bought into the scam.
While AI-machine learning may eventually be able to catch up and detect this type of thing, it’s important to understand the way computers work is nothing like a human. It’s all math. It doesn’t see a rendered frame of the game or video footage and see something obvious here like we do. To detect things like this in the anticheat, you need to define very explicit parameters and some sort of heuristic to look for it. If it’s not something the human programming it thought of, it wont look for it.
That said, we also dont really know how the cheat works. For example, if you’re aleady in the process of hacking the game code, it’s not inconceivable that the game looks and seems totaly normal on the users computer - you can manipulate the underlying data and rendering viewpoint while making the gameplay look natural. It would only look weird from the replay perspective, which means the cheat may not easily be detected in realtime, and would require post-processing the replay to find it.
Let’s just say I know a dude who ran a business off hacks and selling alt accounts for a game called Eve Online.
Dude is not even 30 and he can retire peacefully with not a single thing traced back to him.
All because he fed off the desperation of the worst players in a community. And that Eve Online did nothing to stop him from making millions. Like no joke this man will toss out a Cuban Cigar that’s barely lit with the excuse of “I can always buy more.”
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