The general consensus in the community is that Hog and Ball together is an instant lose. I will admit my experience with this comp on my team has not been so great.
However Hog and Ball are often picked selfishly or as a result of a team dispute. Lets say non of those happen, and you pick Hog and Ball seriously. Thus can a Hog and Ball comp be viable?
What do you think? Are there any good situations to run Hog and Ball? Or is it always a doomed comp?
Yes it can be.
It tends to be Hog / Ball and Widow
Ball slams behind their shield, and hog hooks and kills a target who is bumped above it.
It is good in combination with Widow, who also get a pick at the time, from someone else who was also slammed.
If a slam leads to 1-2 picks, it is a fight winning move.
There is a lot of goodness around ults. Hooks into mine fields. Hog ults into mine fields. Widow ult lets the Ball have a better plan going in.
Those 3 work well together.
i did it with friends and went 7:4
so fine, but not great
I’ve done it before and I was fine.
Hog is the best shieldbreaker and can protect the supports from flankers.
Ball is good in disrupting the enemy team and most effective against deathball comps. So, theoretically they are good against double-shield comps, but depending on their team to tryand work with them and not throw directly.
Yes, it can definitely work and I’ve won many times against proper compositions as both the Wrecking Ball and Roadhog. The problem with it, however, is that neither tank is very supportive of their team outside of disruption and eliminations. As a result, your team is more likely to get picked off because of the lack of protection and/or peel.
There are a lot of bad Wrecking Ball players out there as well, and the lack of disruption and the engagement that he provides can also make the comp fall short.
It can work, but it needs a couple of conditions to be true
At least ONE of those needs to be true. The more that are true, the better it’ll be. Personally, I win with ball/hog a lot in solo queue because I can main tank well enough and my hog normally does enough dmg to follow up on it.
When I play support and see hog and ball torture selected it’s almost always an uphill battle, but nothing makes me feel relieved like seeing the enemy team running it
I have already played Hog with my friend as Ball. QP, attack on Kings Row. Enemy had a Reinhardt. We had Zen and Lucio as supports.
We won.
Only above 3500 SR.
Below that they’ll just end up feeding the enemy ult charge while our DPS cannot peak at chokes, nobody creates space or protects the whole team from the incoming poke dmg… So nope it rarely works.
Viable depends on the distribution of idiots in the lobby.
Good depends on if you’ve locked yourself out of the option of running triple tank.
Playing Hog and Ball Torture = soft throwing.
Ha, so I am not the only one.
Wow that bad eh.
That is interesting, so if my team runs this comp even to spit teammates. Would going Widow help?
Hog and ball are much of an instant lose as Rein and Zarya, scrubs try to mimic their OWL counterparts but they can’t.
Contrary to popular belief, Roadhog and Hammond can do amazing work if they coordinate. If Ball can use Piledriver and peak someone above the barrier, Hog can hook them out of safety, guaranteeing the pick.
Hooking a Tank through an entire Minefield is devastatingly strong.
The only reason it’s not viable is because Double Shield is just so stupidly good.
Double Offtank isnt bad in general, it’s actually pretty good, but it’s just terrible in comparison to Double Maintank
THe irony behind that, as soon it comes meta, ppl will stop playing them =)
You can play any comp in this game in still win. Most Zarya+Hog games i won (Hog me)
But unmeta comp its actually hard. 99% people just dont know how play with low heal or without shield. also 99% on no meta hero playing ultra bad.
Most comps can be made to work. This being said, it’s delusional thinking going into a game with an uncoordinated team and no shield tank on defense is not giving your team the best chances.
It can definitely work but the ball player needs to know how to play as the main tank properly, which many players don’t know how to do without a shield.