Console player here and have a question with those with access to the ptr. I tried to find this answer but I can’t find one. Can Echo copy another Echo who is using their ultimate? Example the enemy Echo uses her ult to turn into Roadhog, can your Echo use ult to turn into Roadhog as well or will it not work because it’s another Echo?
I was wondering the same thing, myself. Because, on one hand, it’s technically an echo and she cant copy herself. But, she’s also copying a different hero so I have no idea
no she cannot
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Echo can only copy enemy heroes who are not Echo in any way, shape, or form. Literally.
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Okay. That makes sense
Now, this may sound like a stupid question, But does the enemy have to be alive for you to copy them? Like, could you kill an enemy, look at their corpse, and copy them? Or do they have to be alive on the field doing stuff?
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Yeah, they have to be alive. There is no marker or anything on dead bodies like say Mercy would get.
They have to be alive at the time you copy them. But they can die while your ult is active.
The copied enemy also can’t change heroes until your ult ends.
Oh, well that’s cool.
That, is not. I hope they find some way to fix that.
I mean, isn’t her Ult like 12 seconds or something. That’s quite a long time to not be able to change your hero.
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It’s intentional. There’s a small bar at the bottom of the hero select screen that says “Echo copied you. You cannot change heroes for X seconds.”
I think it’s 15 seconds.
Yeah, but is it intentional for what reason. is an intentional because that’s how they wanted it to behave, or because they can’t figure out how to make it not work like that, maybe due to a technical limitation. You know what I mean.
Oh I dunno. Could be part of her ult, she locks enemy heroes into their heroes as a strategy thing or something.
Like if you copy enemy McCree in OT, he can’t come back as Tracer.
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Bugs always prove me wrong…
I wonder if that will change. I’m all for strategy and counter play, but I’m not really a big fan of you just not being able to change your hero for over 10 seconds. That’s just not cool.
I mean, think about it. Let’s say that you’re on the field and you’re kind of getting hard-countered. Then, Echo copies you and you die.
Well, then you have very minimal choices of what to do. You can either pick the same hero you weren’t getting value out of, and try to get back to the fight quickly. or you have to wait around for like 10 seconds, to pick a different hero you think will work, and then try to get back in the fight, wasting precious time.
That just seems problematic to me
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its intentional for reasons of programming her obviously.
Devs told that Echo ult works prety similar to d.va’s one
So it probably would cause major problems if your target swap hero during ult, so they restricted it
Yeah, so it’s intentional not necessarily because they wanted to be that way, but because they have to have it that way. That’s not really good.
as I was telling the other commenter, that can be a real big problem. Like I said, let’s say you’re getting hard-countered, echo transforms into you, and you die. At that point, the only options you have is to pick the same hero you weren’t getting value out of, and try to get back into the fight quickly. or, wait around with your thumbs up your butt for however long, pick a hero you think would work better for the situation, and then get back in the fight, which wastes precious time.
Like I said, it just seems problematic to me
Here’s another question will her ult get canceled if the hero she is copying dies in the middle of her copying them.