Calm seas don't make skilled sailors

You will learn nothing if you win agains weak enemy. You will learn a lot when you fight agains steamroller and lose.

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And placing me and my friends, with no sailing experience, on a boat in the middle of the ocean during a hurricane doesnt make us skilled sailors either.

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Fully agree.


Placing a person into a boxing ring with Mike Tyson during a tournament doesn’t teach them how to box. They just get a massive beat-down in a one-hit knock out.

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You actually learn very little by being steamrolled. You learn a lot from being in a game where you struggle, but ultimately lose.

And what makes you think I want to learn something? I play games to have fun. If the game stops being fun, I won’t play anymore. It’s not more complicated than that.

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Neither one of those statements sarcasm and all are entirely true for every situation. There’s always something to learn about yourself.

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Yeah. So many people seem to forget that if the skill discrepancy is too great, you don’t learn much from the loss.

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Exactly. I understand the sentiment that OP is trying to say, but it only typically applies when going up against someone only slightly/somewhat better than you. You have to have enough prerequisite skills and knowledge of the task at hand to be able to understand why the opponent is getting an upper hand on you.

If Mike Tyson knocks me out in one blow it doesnt help me understand anything at all about what I did wrong.

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Nah sorry, I learn nothing spending most of the game in spawn except that the enemy team is better. You can’t stop and examine what they’re doing differently when you die in 3 seconds after you walk out of spawn.

And pretty much every time the only things that are truly different are:
They have better aim than your team.
They have better coordination than your team.

Which is obvious and you learn nothing from.

Also this argument is regularly used by people who smurf/alt account for easier wins to try and absolve themselves of guilt and try and make people see them as some kind of hero.
You are not. You are scum.

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Usually from those, I learn “Wow, I completely wasted my time and could have a better experience in another game.”

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Just squat 500 lbs. Whats the worst that could happen?

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I mean, you’d definitely learn something.

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I got put in a QP match with two "Top 500 Role Challenger"s and a “Grandmaster Role Challenger” today. Rialto defense. One top 500 title per side, both on DPS, and the Grandmaster title was my co-support. Our title-havers were a Sojourn (t500) and Mercy (GM), both crossplay, and the enemy t500 was a Widow (later Tracer) on PC. I checked the enemy t500’s profile later out of curiosity, and they weren’t even off-roling

I have NO IDEA why it decided to put me in that lobby. But it was somehow way less stressful than most of my matches lately. Main reason being that my team knew how to avoid taking 1,000,000 unnecessary damage, so I actually had room to breathe and work. It almost felt chill, aside from me vaguely hoping my teammates didn’t report me on hero select for choosing Weaver. I just paid very close attention to where my team decided to stand, and positioned accordingly. It was noticeably different than the usual positioning I’m used to seeing on that map, and it made total sense. During the fight, I think I even managed to pressure the Widow quite well, and only died to the Tracer swap when I got Pulse Bombed once. I also chased and finished off a Pharah, which is especially satisfying for a Weaver. I think I had two total deaths in that match overall, and they didn’t even reach the first checkpoint

I think I definitely learned something from that experience, even if it somehow wasn’t all that stressful

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To be absolutely fair… Lots of the people playing aren’t trying to learn anything.

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How do you even start on a boat in the middle of an ocean in the first place.

I saw a game that a previous GM tank coming back and played in plat. GM tank(JQ) had about 30+ kills and 5 deaths while all other teammates had more deaths than kills.

Result? The 4 dummies criticized that their tank was not playing optimally and only cared his stats, and said “report him for throwing”.

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Why you always lying?
:notes:

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Just what I needed to hear thanks OP

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seas that instantly shipwreck your boat dont teach you anything either

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I mean, that’s all and well.

But most games where you have a teammate who doesn’t understand how to heal or only knows how to hold and constantly walks down mid.

Legit just had a Baptiste who didn’t know how to heal.

just because the 1st section of your sentence is true doesnt mean the opposite in the 2nd part of your sentence is true as well.

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