Genji is currently in a good state. These buffs are ridiculous and unnecessary.
that is your opinion
No, “genji is in a bad state” is the opinion.
“Genji is fine” is proven by his middle-of-the-pack pick rate and healthy win-rate.
That’s obviously why the devs chose to make changes right? Because the incorrect because of private profiles overbuff stats told them that genji is doing fine?
They have their reasoning, and I’m sure it had nothing to do with overbuff.
Don’t say it’s because of the forums either, because as you can see, buffs to genji are the last thing the forums want.
Considering how they absolutely refuse to nerf widowmaker, and have handled non-meta heroes becoming even remotely popular in the past I’m assuming, at this point, that Genji has fans on the dev team who care less about balance and more about their own gameplay.
Yes that’s exactly why he’s been the same for so long. We’ve clearly got a man on the inside who’s decided enough is enough and told every other dev that he’s in charge and is going to buff Genji.
That’s not how balance teams work. They have correct stats that you don’t, and they’ve decided that Genji needed to experiment with buffs. I don’t care what you have to say about it because you have 0 experience with balancing a game, and you’re putting your faith in stats that are incorrect because of people (like you) who keep their profiles private.
Ignored.
Nah, Genji needed buffs. Dont let the Genji forum hate deceive you.
Then where are the Sym buffs?
The moment OWL teams were seen using Sym to boost people from spawn with here teleporter only to immediately be swapped off of she should have been shoved to the front of the line for buffs. Because that’s just sad.
But here we have Genji, who is only the third most picked DPS in every rank below Grand Master. You know…third out of seven-teen.
People like you are why my profile is private.
Also, your profile is private. So maybe don’t go there.
Until we get access to those stats, they might as well not exist.
I will admit to having faith in Blizzard, and understanding that they make changes with good reason. However they also went and released Brigitte in her release state, let her run rampant for a full year, dumpstered Hog because the somehow thought that reducing his damage by 17% wouldn’t affect his performance too much (and also completely failed to properly math out the impact of those particular changes), and demonstrated a lack of knowledge of how impact volumes work when your server ticks twice as fast as your physics engine.
My grenades still regularly phase through skinny targets when my connection starts dropping packets because Comcast.
So, I have faith that they know what they’re doing at some level. However, I am perfectly within my right to disagree when I see something stupid. And the genji changes are stupid.
They’ve given it a rest, they’ve reworked her twice. Isn’t she the if not one the most changed heroes? They can’t get it right. Do you really want to try your luck with Sym 4.0?
You’re right, it is. Just like yours. And just like thousands of unaware players. And just like even more who just don’t want people looking at their stats.
If you’re going to keep your profile private, don’t support stats you know are wrong because of you.
I’m all for public stats. They’d make what I do easier. I know they have access to them though and I’m not gonna pretend they don’t exist because they are private. They’ve given us insight in the past and showed how they differed from Overbuff. That blizzard employee got flamed and I’m not even sure if the post is still here.
He was oneshotting people “without counterplay” which is one of the reasons people are complaining about Genji buffs. Triple headshot melee? Seriously? People are complaining that he can very rarely oneshot combo people (something else far more heroes than people are willing to admit can)
“Things don’t work properly when my internet is bad” ok. well the other 99% of the time you’re shooting out junkrat grenades that do more damage than genji ultimate slashes and at a higher firerate. thank god they don’t have a fatter hitbox.
People are seriously complaining that Genji has the damage to a Symmetra turret with one shuriken. My melee can do that. Jesus.
Or is it the QOL cancel deflect that got you, that thing I could already do with dash or wallclimb. Or maybe it’s the longer duration. Sorry, you’re right, the balance team does sometimes make mistakes because this changes pretty much nothing.
Or maybe it’s his spread reduction on his secondary that lets him hit a target reliably further from point blank now.
Most of Genji’s kit is just filler. His damage was weak and now it’s on par with everybody else in the game. If you want to nerf his ult, go ahead. It’s already too situational without nano in the first place. Finally have a game to play for the 2 minutes (1 and a half minutes thanks to the buffs :D) while blade charges
The only thing I care less about than my SR is what people think about my SR(hint: they’re both trash).
I’ve reconsidered my position. Yeah, he’s in all my games already, but that just means more people aren’t going to start playing Genji than already do, and he’s got that awkward kit to dissuade people from picking it up. Worst case, I die a bit more to him. Best case, I get to shoot people still working out how to double jump.
Not super excited about the .5 second deflect addition. That’s another three meters he can kamikaze charge at me for free. And with the cancel…ehhhh that seems less fun. The rest is whatever. Maybe slow down ult charge a bit or something. Eh.
This month
D.Va: 51.20% winrate
Genji: 55.27% winrate.
 
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This week
D.Va: 49.94% winrate
Genji: 51.46% winrate
 
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Sure. 100%. Go for it. I prefer the consistency of the buffs.
I don’t know why either of you are arguing/comparing.
D.va is weak as well and any Genji player with a brain will agree to her being buffed if they want any chance of Genji ever becoming meta again. Tanks decide metas not an extra 2 damage on shuriken.
D.Va is weak. That’s undeniable. There’s no tier where she’s a good hero, except Bronze where she’s played a lot, but also has the lowest winrate of the tanks.
Genji though ? He’s average in GM, and good in most tiers. Top 3 in pickrate overall, average winrate.
You can try and argue that average is bad, but Genji is far from a priority for buffs. McCree and Ashe should be nerfed first. Sym, Bastion, Sombra should be buffed first.
McCree has the lowest winrate in GM.
4th lowest in Masters.
4th lowest in Diamond.
Lowest in plat.
3rd lowest in Gold.
I don’t think I should go any further, but it’s pretty easy to see how overbuff stats have little context behind them and don’t always reflect how strong a hero is in the actual game.
McCree is a universal pick, and pretty much always mirrorred, like Ana, like Widow, which explain their overall winrates. He’s also counterable by other heroes that aren’t himself.
He’s the most played DPS everywhere but in Silver and Bronze.
Even then, the only thing you did was show that Genji isn’t that bad compared to McCree.
That’s exactly what I did. I’d dare say that Genji is better than McCree. And widowmaker. and hanzo. and tracer.
not soldier:76 though, because the schtats don’t lie
Genji is better than Soldier, not better than Widow, Hanzo and Tracer.
The stats don’t lie, but you surely fail to read them.
buff a tank? is that even legal?
i honestly dont know, i think the only heroes allowed to get buffed properly are dps