Bring back overwatch 1

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I will give my opinion of overwatch 2 without going in too much details because that would take hours and I have better things to do:

heroes:
-why is every hero a tank now, what’s with the hp inflation?
-Tanks have too much hp, this is not an fps game anymore, this is boring, it feels so bad to play dps. There is no way to outplay a tank anymore, even if you headshot him 10 times he still doesn’t die.
-old roadhog was better (new hog is very forgiving and unpunishable, thus making the skill ceiling very low compared to old hog)
-mercy super jump, lucio wallride, zarya double bubble (again lower skill ceiling for good layers)
-soldier healing pad doesn’t even heal
-why can’t hanzo oneshot anymore? so apparently hanzo is not a sniper now? (do I need to explain more)
-6v6 was better (1 tank is horrible for the solo tank player, if tank is bad, game is lost). (as a tank player, if you decide to dive their backline & make a play, oh… reaper ulted my entire backline. You don’t dive their backline and frontline your team? Goodluck trying to win as nothing will die & you will get farmed for ult charge.) No wonder no one wants to play tank.
-open queue is better (role queue is unplayable with 1 tank)
-dps is a useless role now and very unsatisfying to play
-so bastion has rollers now? what’s next orissa will have wings?
-I dont understand why you even reworked orissa and now she doesn’t have a shield. why do you rework perfectly functioning heroes when you could make a new heroe instead. (same with cassidy, roadhog, sombra, bastion, farah)

maps:
-assault maps were fine why did you remove them
-flashpoint & push are horrible, just remove them

-lootboxes were better (if I wanted to play valorant,fortnite or league of legends, I would have). Stop copying every bad aspects of other games.

you keep lowering the skill ceiling of the game and making heroes and maps and game modes more stupid & less rewarding.
It was all apparent since the end of overwatch 1 when you introduced role queue. End of the overwatch 1 is where things started to go dowhill, that’s why I stopped playing. After 4 years I am deeply dissapointed at how much worse things have gotten.

You had a good game & you ruined it. good job blizzard. I wouldn’t be surprised if they introduce heroe bans soon. That would top it off.

I can go on and on at all the things that are wrong but at this point just bring back overwatch 1 it’s easier.
The only way to cope with all this mess is by playing tank & support in open queue.

I don’t understand the direction of the game, it feels very inconsistent & directionless. You broke the game.

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Well, if WoW can bring back classic WoW then I believe OW can bring back classic OW. Maybe one day.

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Hopefully it doesn’t take too long. 5v5 has already done enough damage.

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OW 2 was a complete mistake. I would rather OW go back to its roots one day but to be honest the moment a game like OW comes out that feels like OW I’ll be going to that one. In fact I think a lot of people will. The market is ready for another OW type of game. The marvel rivals game looks interesting and is definitely a competitor. The problem is its a marvel game, so it will only have so much appeal in that regard.

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Saw the title and liked the post :pray:

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Didn’t help that they mislead the PVE enthusiasts with false promises of a PvE campaign and all we got was DLC we STILL had to pay for in terms of PvE content, despite the premise of Overwatch 2’s promised PvE content already being IN THE BASE GAME ITSELF AND THEY CUT IT BECAUSE REASONS.

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Which version of Overwatch 1? No-one can really agree.

2016 Overwatch 1? People would want Hero Limits.
2017 Overwatch 1? People would want all the OW1 heroes. People would also want pre-rework Torbjorn and Mercy.
2018 Overwatch 1? People would want Role Queue.
2019 Overwatch 1? People wouldn’t want Role Queue. They’d also want pre-3.0 Symmetra.
2020 Overwatch 1? People would want Echo, would not want to play into double-shield meta.
2021/2022 Overwatch 1? People were dropping that game at the time. No-one wanted to play Tank. The meta was devolving into Hog/Ball. People were already talking about ‘Overwatch Classic’ at that point.

Unlike WoW, there is no clear consensus on what ‘Classic Overwatch’ should be. At least with WoW, everyone that wanted ‘vanilla servers’ at least pretty-clearly wanted ‘WoW, but before Cataclysm’. Same deal with RuneScape - people wanted ‘RuneScape, but before reworked graphics and EOC’. There is no clear consensus like that with Overwatch.

As for Loot Boxes, they probably wouldn’t be in a ‘Classic Overwatch’ game anyway for the exact same reason they were removed from Overwatch 2: regulatory pressure. Loot Boxes are dead. They aren’t coming back.

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Not literally. I mean they are failing at balancing the game and keep making things worse. It’s as if someone doesn’t really know what he is doing and doesn’t really have any specific/clear philosophy of how he wants the game to be (again this started at the end of overwatch 1 and especially the release of overwatch 2).

There is no reason to change so much the format of the game. Imagine if league of legends suddently became 6v6 (it always was 5v5 and always will be).
It seems like overwatch is failing to create unchangeable rules on which they can build the game on.

They do these huge changes that no one really is asking for. No one asked for 5v5, no one asked for all these reworks, no one asked for these new game modes. The new heroes they introduced are great, I am enjoying playing kiriko a lot.
However, this does not mean that they did not ruin other aspects of the game that were better in the past, like the maps, the heroes or the format.

They are just really bad at balancing the game.
It is obvious that they are trying to balance the game by copying other games that are completely different. The beauty of Overwatch was that it was so unique, creative & different. Not anymore…
Corporate greed is killing the game. F2P, RNG maps, low skill ceiling, battlepass… This is not a competitive game anymore, there is much potential for outplay. The games you win, it doesn’t feel fair. The games you lose feel very frustrating.

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People were saying this at literally every point of Overwatch 1.

People said this when Role Queue was added.

So you’re in the “I want Overwatch 1, but with the Overwatch 2 heroes” camp. I forgot to mention that group in my post, but they’re another group that “Overwatch Classic” would have to contend with. You’d be up against the people that don’t want Kiriko to exist - they also want “Overwatch Classic”. Which goes back to my point - no-one can agree on what it should be.

Yes, and they have been since 2016.

It really isn’t that unique. The artstyle and lore is, sure. But otherwise, it’s a class-based FPS. It’s a nearly-30 year old genre and it’s pretty well-understood by people that have played other similar games in the past. The only people that have trouble with this concept are people who want Overwatch to be something it isn’t - like Call of Duty or Valorant or Counter-Strike or first-person DOTA/LoL.

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https://discord.gg/uzFUQu7G4s

Here is a link to a group of 500+ people that have a ow2 6v6 workshop. They set up 6v6 lobbies everyday.

The workshop code is 7hskw if you want to check it out.

If ow1 is more your style, here is a group of almost 2k people with an ow1 emulator workshop.

https://discord.gg/overwatch-1-emulator-1125986404212670568

Their emulator workshop code is YKMXH

And their ow1+ workshop code is KHTG0

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It’s not happening but I respect your dedication to being frustrated

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They can easily bring back Overwatch 1 as an official Arcade mode.

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WoW is a massive game and classic was made in respond to private servers. OW doesn’t have such and only needs some numbers changed and it will be back to want it was.
it can be done at any time but the devs don’t want to admit they made a mistake.

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I’d be surprised if MS did this, there is no money in it

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A lot of the old devs are already gone. It kind of feels like they just dont want to make 6s and would rather leave the company than do that lol

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What was the subscription cost of WOW classic? Would you pay that for OW classic?

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it probably comes from whoever is in charge of those things. They keep making mistakes and knowing reverting progress will cost them money so they just don’t do it and keep throwing stuff at the wall hoping that something will stick. That has been OW’s mentality since day one.

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thanks will check them out! :slightly_smiling_face:

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5v5 killed overwatch 2.
the 2nd tank was needed to peel flankers and protect the backline.
Without the 2nd tank, everyone needs to either be super tanky, or super lethal.

Not sure how blizz managed to make what was barely considered a sequel, even worse than the original

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Watched Samito play 6v6 this weekend. Was amazing to see high level play in 6v6 again. Aside from having to relearn buttons everyone was loving it. It’s crazy to forget all the hero interactions we lost by losing an off tank. There was just so much going on it made 5v5 feel like nothing more than a shooting range where everyone and everything is hyper focused on, and revolves around, the tank.

I’m convinced we’ll get 6v6 back at some point. Even if it’s just a money grab ‘classic’ version. But also not ruling out an outright switch back to it. I think Blizz was hoping as old players are replaced with new players who never experienced OW1 the calls for 6v6 would die out. But that’s just not happening. New players aren’t sticking around, and old players aren’t leaving. So the calls for 6v6 just keep growing and growing.

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