Disclaimer: I don’t really think she needs changes, but a lot of people seem to be talking about nerfing the ability so I’m gonna give my idea on a possible change.
Shield Bash
- Briggite’s Shield now takes damage when it successfully hits an enemy. (Values are subject to deliberation, but I’m thinking around ~150-300 self damage)
Other possible changes (Reinhardt-specific):
- Shield Bash vs Reinhardt’s Charge interaction not results to both players being knocked down similar to two Reinhardt’s Charging each other.
- Shield Bashing a Reinhardt with his Shield up results to Reinhardt being booped rather than stunning him.
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Hahaha I just posted a thread with the first suggestion about 15 mins ago. It’s good to see that this seems to be a fairly common idea as it makes sense both thematically and from a gameplay perspective. ‘Turning defense into offense’ after all.
Oh geez. Sorry! I shouldn’t just bumped yours but I didn’t see it. This has been on my mind for a while now. I guess my reasons is to keep it as it is but removing the supposed “Spamming Shield bash continuously in the front lines” sort of thing without necessarily removing other aspects of the ability like using it for mobility.
Sounds awsome, but i belive Rinhardt needs to win a 1V1 since his charge is stronger because of the rockets,speed & mass while brigette only pushes her shield a little bit… but apart from that i really like the changes, Great job dude!!!
That does makes sense in all honesty, but I wanted to keep the stun cc in the ability for consistency and seeing as I often use it as a counter to Charge as well, but I also don’t want it to go without consequence due to how easy it is too execute. and Thanks! 
Understood, even though i really believe Reinhardt has enough counters, especially for his charge, mccree’s flashbang,Ana’s sleep darth,Mei’s wall,Orisa’s fortify,Reinhardt charge,doomfist rock punch,Zarya’s bubble,Roadhog hook,Sombra’s hack & Junkrat trap (Sometimes lucio boop too but it’s less of a counter and more of a time earner…).
So i do believe that giving him ANOTHER counter for his charge will be less effective…
Besides Reinhardt is Brigette master, which in my opinion should make him a really counter instead of a fine counter (He always win a 1V1 but have 50% of his health… Giving him an easy charge will make him a better counter).
Right now brigette is kind of op in the way of countering since she does not have anything that counters her super good except for Bastion,Pharah and Reinhardt. Most of the heroes in the game has 4 or more counters which make Brigette more effective…
Giving Reinhardt the ability to crush her with a charge easily will make him a better counter…
But that’s just my way of thinking…
keep on making posts like that.
You’re doing a great job! 
Yeah, Rein has seen better days. He’s been a bit power-creeped. I really think they should give him some sort of Passive that makes him less vulnerable to CCs in general
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Thats the minor nerf she needs. great idea!
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So you are proposing self damage to a CC move? Tell me where the logic is behind that. This punishes her for landing her ability. This is so unfair. I know youre trying to find a middle route but this is just bad.
Not really. In the front lines after landing a Shield Bash most often the brigitte would lower her shield to attack to activate inspire. Which would give her time to recharge the shield health. What this stops tho is spamming Shield Bash without thought and consequence. All it introduces is a slight risk and decision making to whether or not stunning an opponent with shield bash is necessary.
Why would you inspire out of shield? You do know you can cast your ult behind shield right? But still no on the risk. If characters like Genji can deflect with no risk or Roadhog can hook almost anyone and even shoot first I dont see any reason to nerf the shield bash.
I dont mind the other points for Reinhardt though. Those are valid changes.
inspire is the passive
like after the shield bash most often brigitte would start dealing damage, lowering her shield, to activate her passive ‘inspire’. which heals teammates when she does damage. i never mentioned her ultimate.
as for about the shield bash changes. i prefaced the thread saying i don’t think she needs changes, but in the event she does i’m giving alternate suggestions because all the nerfs people want are cd-related
Sorry I meant rally. My bad.
it’s cool but my thought still stands. i believe britgitte needs the 5cd SB to deter flankers and divers from the backlines but i also understand that being able able to use 5cd SB at the frontlines especially against non-mobile heroes without repercussion is the reason why people hate it so much. with how low the CD is, it truly is spammable without thought, what i’m trying to suggest is giving the ability a little risk so the player needs to make a decision if SB is worth it in the front lines.
(because if they use SB in the backlines with my suggestion they’d be able to recharge shield health in relative safety)
