Just put a Winston Bubble and Discord on her. No one’s getting stunned so she’ll get melted by Tracer and Genji. At least with Ana her sleep is long enough range that she can land it before the bubble, but Brigitte’s PTR change is so inconsistent and visually messy that her stun doesn’t work if she’s remotely near a barrier (or it does but only by luck).
Revert this buggy mess and increase her stun cooldown to 10 seconds (like flashbang) or decrease it back to 5 seconds (with the barrier nerf) so she can spam it more. Because a coordinated Dive is gonna be able to Bubble dance their way to victory with this current patch.
EDIT: I came up with a third option: Bashing a Barrier deals 500 damage to the barrier. That’ll basically delete a Bubble and pressure a Reinhardt without stunning him.
Yeah not big fan of this recent change either, messing with barriers proven to be tricky. Not that good Tracer or Genji can now simply bait out her bash and tag team her. Still I think we should wait with final judgment on her.
The intention behind Brig was (allegedly) not to obliterate dive and to make it totally unviable regardless of skill level or map. It was to make dive less dominant.
Giving dive a way to deal with her, whilst still leaving her fairly effective, is a good thing.
The point of Brigitte, according to the devs, was to counter dive though, right? So making her weak to the one comp she is supposed to be strong against, kind of defeats the purpose of the hero.
We’ll have to see how much weaker she will be though, so I will wait until the nerfs go live before making any judgements on it. I don’t think we need yet another year of Dive comp, after it’s 2 year reign previously. My 2 cents.
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If she ends up actually being straight up weak to it, then yeah, that’s an issue. However, none of us on this forum are able to play dive to the sorts of levels where that’s relevant in order to check.
What I think is certain though is making her less strong against dive will be a move in the direction she should be moving. She should be a counter, but less good of a counter than she is currently.
I think it was crazy that she could ever stun through a shield. Why bother having a shield if they don’t protect?
Now the Brig will have to outplay people, kind of like a Rein v Rein. Can’t just shatter through shield, you have to outplay them.
Don’t worry though. I have seen plenty of post saying how Brig is a skillful hero, so you guys got this covered.
Having her just stop is after touching a barrier is odd though, they could do the whole animation without the stun effect. Give a swing dmg.
I really don’t want this to go live. Dealing with barrier interactions will just lead to more inconssistencies. Remember Reinhardt’s Earthshatter? Not to mention that you really can’t do this to Brigitte without doing the same to Doomfist’s everything and Reinhardt’s own Charge. If this does stay, this has to happen to them. Exceptions for one character just make everything more complicated instead of adding depth to a character which is what the community wanted for Brigitte. To have depth in her kit rather than being another straight forward easy value character.
Make her shield break If she bashes a barrier, but still let her stun through it.
That way she could still bash a winston (she doesn’t need a sheild against him) and she could stun rein.
But stunning Rein would be a higher risk.
Cooldown needs to be 5 seconds then. She’ll be waiting for her barrier to regen a lot so she should have the option to stun more (not that she’ll always want to because it makes her vulnerable)
These “#Deletebrig movement” statements of “We’re nerfing Brig 'till she’s useless, then Doomfist and Sombra are next!” comes to mind. One thing I can guarantee is that post nerfs to brig (if it does happen), people will be using the same “unfun to play against” argument against Doomfist in the very least, throwing him yet again, back into the unviable hero bin.
This whole “Destroy whoever is the most successful in the meta, whether they are balanced or not” mentality is what ruined a lot of heroes, and kind of concerns me in terms of the state of the game. I wouldn’t be surprised if people continue to ask for nerfs for Brig, Doom, and Sombra, long afterwards even if they are made into being D-F tier heroes. It’s quite sad.
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she’ll still be played, you can nerf her shield bash all you want but she will still be played. I personally dont think brig is an issue and i dont think shes the one responsible for goats. i just dont think any other heros besides the ones is goats are strong enough to deal with it. Torb, sym, reaper, roadhog, mei and pharah SHOULD counter goats but i dont think theyre strong enough yet.
In this case she is shileding form Tracer attacks, while Genji Dinks her in head. Of course you could go Junk or Phara and just explode her, but it didnt fit example.
If Genji and Tracer dive her on the Live patch, she’ll still die because she’ll kill one and the other will shoot her in the back while doing it. With the barrier nerf, neither will die.
