A) Passive heal is “16 hps” per hit for 5 seconds. It’s like no heal at all. Ok i agree she isn’t main healer so it doesn’t matter
B) Flail damage is cute. 35 damage per hit. So she is not DPS support like moira.
C) Her shield is ridiculously small. She doesn’t suppose to be somebody like reinhardt or orisa, but damn it, she can’t protect herself from PHARAH ROCKET SPLASH. It should be larger or, at least, more curved.
D) Her mobility is trash. Her only way to move faster is 6 meter shield bash. “But zen and ana don’t have mobility skills at all”. But zen and ana pretty long range (ana can heal from large distance, same as zen), when brigitte should be a frontline.
She is good though. Repair pack is strong ability, bash works great as offensive ability (stun with 5 sec cooldown), her ultimate is kinda strong when enemy try to push. I just said something that feels “wrong” about her
yes definitely underpowered…she doesn’t seem to be good in any 1v1 scenarios, her heal, survivability and damage are all minimal. Her success lies in team work and group settings. She feels like a paladin tank from wow except she’s not very tanky, can only heal for a minor amount and her damage is laughable. With a few tweaks she can be better without feeling overpowered…definite potential here as her play style is different and fun in spite of how under powered she feels atm
If I’m being fully honest what I would like to see is her mace damage up to 40 (instead of 35, that just seems too low) and her HP increased to 300 (edit: just to be clear I mean like 250 HP and 50 armour) so she can more effectively fill her role as a hybrid tank.
Yes you can. People shouldn’t be stopped from giving their first impressions and opinions about the hero overall just because a hero is new. It should be the exact opposite.
35 per hit sure. But, about two hits per second on multiple people. If she hits two people twice all of a sudden she is closing in on a 140 dps. Imagine her right at Reins shoulder, flailing through his shield constanly hitting 2 or 3 of the enemy team, maybe occasionally stepping through and popping shield to add a little life to Reins. Whipshoting anybody that tries to step through, and shield bashing the first Tracer that is dumb enough to try and farm them. Doesn’t sound so bad to me.
People are forgetting her mace is an AoE attack not a Single Target attack. Which means she might be poor at 1 v 1 but she works great in doing group damage.
Her burst damage is only around 155 - just enough to kill a tracer.
Her passive heal is only meant to heal poke damage. Where she is going to suffer most is, unfortunately, is long to be point B on most CP maps while playing defense.
The reason being her low shield health and low mobility is pretty bad for long range engagements.
My initial reaction to Brigitte was, and still is: when would I play her?
As a support: her healing output seems pretty low. Like Zen/Lucio low. Zen, however, has dischord orb which balances out his low healing because enemies melt.
Lucio doesn’t have to do damage to start healing.
The best support aspect seems to be her ult, which admittedly is pretty powerful.
Does her support value outweigh the others to justify a pick…I don’t see it.
As a tank: She has 250 hp and a shield (which seems to still allow all sorts of splash damage?) So doesn’t seem likely that her intended use is to frontline or protect teammates. Maybe she can after piling on some armor with her ult? Again, a D.Va or Zarya would be a much better choice of off-tank.
I guess she’s a jack-of-all-trades, master of none? Kinda hard to see what comps she’d be used in apart from the 4 tank/Moira/dps setup.
A) Passive heal with a manual heal that is long range, and over heals with armor. (“the best cure is prevention”)
B)Everyone else covered burst damage nicely, but this is also combined with stuns and reliable knock back adding up to incredible utility.
C) Yeah
D) No. Her mobility is beyond what you think. You can shield charge certain obstacles to ramp off them like you can with Moira’s Fade, except it’s far more reliable, faster, and gains you enough height to hit the skybox much of the time. Yes, she can fly.
She also has one of the best support ults in the game.
I’d like to see a bigger shield actually. one that can actually block allies in a pinch increase its size by 15%. the point of barriers is to protect your allies right? so i feel greedy using it for only for myself. also i would like the heal radius decreased to 10 meters if she healed 20 a second on passive. i also would give 5 more damage to her primary fire. but this is just me. i haven’t played her on live but her shield to me feels weird i don’t know how to describe it… I play a lot of rein so it just feels weird that i have the same ability but it doesn’t protect stuff. also i think if the barrier size increased it makes it easier to destroy as more stuff hits it.
i would say that give her a bigger barrier then. like her healing is poor quality, her damage is moderate and her protective capabilities seem alright but not that great. if she would get a buff, i would say it would be for her barrier size just like what orisa had a small amount like 15-20% at most. and give it a very slight curve.
the healing could be only buffed by reducing the cooldown for repair pack.
I feel like she has a good place in the metta though. A hero who can dish out decent damage while absorbing some her self, and since the Mercy nerf solo heals is less common and she fills the secondary support role nicely. Sure she has her counters, but no more so than other heroes in my opinion, especially for a support hero.
And that only on the PTR. Like really, it’s to early to say if she is strong or not. But it’s save to say that her utility is in cc, not in healing or dealing dmg. She is very strong in CC and that is okay so far. More dmg, healing or movement could be to much.
Isn’t the whole point of PTR to test things out to get early impressions? So what if she’s new? If a player has played her for a good while I say they are qualified to comment on her strengths and weaknesses.
about the damage in its current set she can still do pretty decent combo at close range. shield bash, basic mele then shift mean 155hp dealt all during the stun effect of the bash. so if she can contact tracer with her charge we are talking about instant death.
I haven’t tried her yet but based on every one opinion here and there I think she is viable (I saw both overpowered and underpowered post about her). Now will she take the place of a moira/lucio in a team at hight level is still to be seen. But in a tank comp she will have her place.