Her survivability is in the gutter. She’s easier to hit, her shield is easier to break, inspire heals less health, and her abilities are less impactful against 250 health heroes. The difference in survivability between Brigitte and heroes like Lucio or Moira is very noticeable.
We’re in a Brigitte’s ideal meta, dive, and yet she’s never felt so weak. Instead of giving her tools to deal with that, we’re pushing her to hide in a corner and hope to survive long enough to get another repair pack out. These were not the buffs she needed.
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Truth.
Also them good dps ques are gone.
Preach it.
Brig needs either her inspire or her shield hp buffed, or both, so she can actually handle being dived upon.
Rally is also a super underwhelming ult again. She is so squishy without the constant overhealing. Since she is entirely reliant on her inspire to stay up in the fight and its weaker with the dps passive, now she just falls over. Rally is just a poor mans fortify or JQ shout. You just use it for the extra 100 armor and hope that makes a difference
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Pretty much. She falls quickly versus a mildly competent dive. And doesn’t fair well against much else.
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Aren’t the actual good brig players literally saying she’s good? I seen one of em questioning why she even got a buff lmfao.
Could be a thing of brig feels like poo just because lucio is better.
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- 25 armor (275) and + 50 barrier (300), and she will actually feel like she scaled correctly with the season 9 changes.
Rally desperately needs to be changed to provide her double inspire self heal during its duration or it will continue to be complete trash. Better yet, rework it back into giving Her self overhealth and ditch the extra armor Hp because it’s 100x worse and all it does it force her to rely on the other support to function at all which defeats the whole purpose of rally.
And if they wanna revoke her repair back buff they can, but they shouldn’t- it should be brought to 5.5 seconds if anything, as she DID need a heal buff and a frequency buff is better for the games new vision than making her heals more bursts.
Alternatively they could extend the repair pack duration to 3 seconds and remove the cooldown buff and place it back to 6.
THIS way she will receive that 1 extra second of healing value, but placed in a way that still rewards proper repair pack usage rather than making it more lenient to utilize, it’ll be stronger for the team mate she places it on without being more bursty.
So in 18 seconds she could max heal for 9 seconds of repair pack up time, instead of 6 seconds of uptime in 15 seconds. If that makes sense. Brig players said it felt a bit generous to utilize effectively and like a skill gap reduction. Shouldn’t this fix that? Because she absolutely needed a good buff. Just maybe not exactly rhat. Not that it’s bad, I’ll take it for sure. But I was surprised.
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I don’t think she’s underpowered rn, she’s just boring and counterintuitive. She’s a melee hero that’s scared to get into melee range. Optimal brig gameplay is mostly just standing in one spot behind cover and occasionally popping out for repair pack or flail
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There’s only 4 Brigitte players in top 500 right now, and none of them break top 50. Anyone who said she didn’t need a buff is wrong.
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Brig is happy to have a thread about her. Maybe buff the time between shield breaking and when it begins regen. She feels pretty frail but she’s still good imo. Though I only have like 2hrs on her this season
Brig should just flat out get hindered on landing her shield bash.
There, I said it.
Give Brig hindered.
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Its so stupid that you hear the same people say “Brig is fine!”, but you:
a) Never see her in games
b) Not see her in top 500
c) No CC plays her
d) We are in HER meta and she is still weak
e) The suggestions WHY she is bad (mainly buggy shield) are ignored
People say “She is fine” and then proceed to never play or see her. Sure, the 3 Brig players who ONLY play Brig are good with her, but it feels like she is the Sym of the support role, without the consent that she needs help.
Currently she might not be unplayable, but for her to be THIS weak in THIS kind of meta, is kind of infuriating.
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Absurdly true- ignore everything I said and give her hindered in shield bash (1 second, maybe 1.5 if it’s not enough to matter) and I bet she’d feel perfect in her role as a hard backline support.
There NEEDS to be support options to support the backline, and she’s the only real one, especially after Ana lost her combo (which I’m not complaining about but, it can’t be just brig AND she’s bad at it)
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Heroes whose role was anti-flanker should have gotten hindered in their kit a long time ago and I have been suggesting it for at least 2-3 years.
Torb, Junkrat, Sym, Mei and Brig.
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A lot of people are still scarred from GOATs, and I get it, but that was 2019 and it’s time to move on.
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Brig wasnt even to blame for GOATS, which is the fun thing.
Tank stacking was the meta in high ranks while the DPS role was mostly obsolete for almost a year before GOATS. In the year before GOATS, Tracer and Widow ruled.
GOATS was just the ideas used to counter Widow without a Widow Mirror taken to its absolute extreme.
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I agree, there were tank stacking comps as early as twinston/quinston and quad tank with Ana. GOATs is essentially just offloading the damage responsibility to Zenyatta and D.Va/Zarya. While Brigitte played a role, she was just a small part of it.
Regardless, let’s not dive too deep into that can of worms. This about Brigitte here and now, and she’s struggling.
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Yes… and look how many lucio’s there are… probably because lucio is just better lol.
Yeah Lucio being really strong doesn’t help Brig at all.
Brig whipshotting somebody away becomes useless if Lucio can just speed everyone onto her. And she’s nowhere near as tanky as she used to be to survive such a thing.
Brig is THE support who is supposed to play well in dive while also being able to soft counter it. As you said, it’s literally her best meta and she’s not even good in it.
I honestly think she needs 2 things, maybe 3 if you consider a QoL change many asked for:
No.1
- Buggy shield deployment fix
Note: Her shield need to be able to block as soon as it’s visually out.
No.2
- Reverting shield health back to 300
Note: Considering she’s supposed to be a bulky backline defender, she isn’t really doing her job well
No.3
- Double Inspire self-healing during Rally
Note: during Rally is arguably when Brig is at her most vulnerable.
She’s supposed to go in and make use of her stun and bonus shield health, but gets melted rather quickly…
And PLEASE PLEASE reset the shield bash cooldown when activating it
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