Guess what? She’s an off support, like Zen (and we all know how Zen dishes out damage), but she’s also an off-tank.
Yes, an off tank. A bruiser-type that cant really hold a team together, but can do some protecting-type stuff and is a great damage dealer. Examples: D.Va and Roadhog.
So no, Brigitte doesn’t do too much damage for a support. Darwinism - adapt to survive, and adapting sometimes means changing your playstyle, or switching off a certain hero.
Zen have 0 mobility and 0 survive …
Oh boy another thread that says “off-support”… is it really that hard to learn the actually support subcategories? Like I don’t even want Brigitte nerfed but this continuing trend of a complete lack of understanding of the support category hurts me.
Its not the damage - its the impossible to dodge or block stun on a 5 second CD that’s the issue.
I played her a bit during the weekend, and its insane - its pretty much ALWAYS up.
They should probably increase it to 8 seconds so using it requires more thinking.
Yes, her cooldown on that may be a little…extreme. The hitbox may need tweaking, too.
winces at the onslaught of angry Brig mains
PLEASE DON’T HURT ME
She kind of ruins tanks. In QP today there were very rarely tanks playing (nearly always Dva, when there was one) and I asked people why - yup, it’s because Brigitte makes playing tanks horrible.
I really don’t think that damage is Baguette’s problem. I think that it’s a 5 second cd stun ability that has a hitbox that is similarly broken to Genji’s reflect hitbox. Just a thought.
people say she does to much damage? Thats funny cause the only times I’ve done a ton of damage to someone is when they were “silly” enough to dive at me with my shield up.
Its almost like you should try staying out of range or something and not yolo in like an idiot. Looking at you Genji mains.
She is shown as a Support/Tank hybrid. With the CC and low CD’s she then have, her damage should frankly be miserable. Lower than Moira basically.
Though honestly, I’d live with it if they just reigned in her shield bash. Make it so that it can’t break through Barriers - putting it on the same level as a McCree’s stun grenade - and it’d be more fair.
Because he has range with no fall off on both his damage and heals, and sniper levels of burst/pick potential instead.
I have to ask. Did you even try to think about Zen’s strengths before you posted that?
I was thinking this the other day. But why pick a hero like reaper over Brigitte? Now I know those are two different roles, but seriously. I’d rather be the close range brawler that heals herself and those around her with every hit that connects with the flail, and have a shield to defend myself, and a rangerd ability with my flail to hit and boop heroes. Also a stun on a 5s cooldown. And my ult gives permanent armor to me and my allies. Vs shotguns that may be stronger but do require accuracy to a small extent. A teleport that’s very obvious. A invincible state that will soon be controllable, and an ult where he kills everything in a certain aoe.
See I think it’s an issue when one hero can do a dps heroes role better then they can. She shouldn’t turn another role obsolete.
This is so true unless they buff reaper, she has put him right out of business
Brigitte only does Reaper’s role better than he does if…
Honestly, I was going to be sarcastic but this line of thinking is just stupid. She does NOT do his job. Like, at all. She has a bit of burst, but without it tops out at around 50 dps per target.
Reaper deals two hundred eighty damage per second at a similar range.
If you’re getting out-performed up close in damage by a brigitte as reaper, you should consider…I’m not sure but it’s completely on you as a player because there are no words for how badly you’re performing as reaper.
My guess would be that you’re overextending or something basic like that and her team is focusing you down, because Reaper’s kit makes him very durable against the likes of Brigitte if he chooses to not take too many risks.
Now, the real question here is why aren’t you combining Reaper with Brigitte? She’s literally the perfect support for him.
I love getting my hog ult instantly cancelled by a Brigitte hiding behind a shield
And it is outside of her combo which is meant to allow her to pop tracer as she is built to counter tracer.
Her overall damage output is low, and without the combo its worse then Moira.
And, the reason she can go through barriers is that shield bash is as much mobility as it is stun. It functions like Charge or Rocket Punch in that manner. This is why it can go through barriers.
McCree’s stun is a projectile that can impact barriers.
I mean if you were to make it so that Shield Bash cannot stun through barriers you would have to do the same to Charge, Rocket Punch, and more or less make it so that mobility abilities treat barriers as walls.
Otherwise it becomes mechanically inconsistent with the rest of the game.
She doesn’t really heal that much, even if she can add armor. Sure you can heal while you dps, but it’s kinda risky to force heals from anything except the long mace.
The only thing that could be considered op is her 5 second c/d stun. In my opinion, moiras 6 second blink is also opaf, but pros don’t complain. It’s not like 4 rez valk mercy op.
Yeah she is just support, support´s are allowed to play differently, right ?
( looking at Lúcio rollerskating across the wield while healing )
She does the same average damage pee game as Lucio does and less than every other hero in the game except Mercy and Ana. Moita outdamages her significantly.
stop defending a broken character just bc u wanna play her
She doesn’t do too much damage on paper but there are 2 key things about her potential damage output
She has a burst damage combo that is consistent because the stun make the follow through near-impossible to miss.
Like Moira her primary needs no aim, which makes up for the lower dps on paper. People underestimate how much it helps dps not having to aim.