Brigitte armor pack

How about instead of adding the additional armor on top of the base health of a hero, the armor pack instead changes 50hp to 50 armor points when the pack heals the target to full health.

For example, Brigitte throws a repair pack onto a Tracer:
Current mechanic: Tracer gets 150hp and 50 temporary armor (200 points total)
Proposed mechanic: Tracer gets 100hp and 50 temporary armor. (150 points total)

Another example, Brigitte throws a repair pack onto an Orisa:
Current mechanic: Orisa has 200hp, 250 armor, and 50 temporary armor.
Proposed mechanic: Orisa has 150hp, 250 armor, and 50 temporary armor.

The temporary armor turns back into normal health after 5 seconds (or it slowly degrades into normal hp at a rate of 10points/sec?)

IMO this is a better alternative than the complete removal of armor, as seen in Experimental, and still keeps her niche of providing armor. It just no longer overheals. Because, like in the Tracer example… Tracer was balanced around having 150hp. Giving her 200 hp is too much.

In the same change, you can revert the fact that temporary armor is put on top of original armor and shields. Just drop it directly between original health and armor.

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There’s so many things that could tried, a lot of them involve nothing but variable changes as well.

Flat out deletting over-armor is such a desperate, uncreative and frankly, pushes up double shield meta even further for it hurts dive heroes.

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The problem is that Brig is enabling dive even tho the only reason shes in this game is to counter dive. Being able to feely give armor to allies needs to go, her ult can stay since it’s her ult.

Its cow-towing to the vaping man-child cult that worships Samito quite frankly. I expected far better from the Devs, far better. They are desperate to jump start that bloated gas-filled corpse of OWL which as much as I would like it to succeed, just isn’t going to. Screwing around with moves to re-enable Dive is the sign they are desperate.

They could’ve made it so armor only stacks if the hero you heal with armor pack was below 75% health or even 50% health.

They just took the most uncreative, lazy and unoriginal route and completely deleted her armor packs, now she only gives packs. Also her identity is completely lost. What’s the point of healing somebody with her packs when I can play ana and burst heal people.

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I have zero problem with a support enabling a comp that struggled for years, particularly now that double shield comps dominate for so long.

I have problems with over-powered things but I reckon those two aren’t mutually exclusive. Let’s us keep Brig enabling dive and nerf her, seems easy enough.

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This support is meant to counter dive not enable it. She is overtuned in the worst ways she needs these nerfs.

Tracer: ā€œI’ll take some armahā€

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How about we revert the last buffs ya boi Lucio got. They kind of help dive don’t they? Speed on an entire team is far more impactful than a few seconds of pre-armor… oh silly me, I forgot, Ana and Lucio are the only supports the GM crew likes… :roll_eyes:

She’s meant to do whatever the heck the devs decide she’s meant to do. Keep her dive enabling where she makes the meta more varied and her own kit more interesting.

Not these nerfs. These are stupid and short-sighted.

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which is counter dive??? LMFAOOO what is your mentality she is meant to counter dive thats what the devs intended on her doing???

no they aren’t balance patches are made month in advance

This is not about dive meta.
Providing armor works just as well to enable dive as to counter dive, depends on how it’s used.

IMO it’s overrated because back in actual dive meta we also had old Torb’s armor packs and he wasn’t played in dive for his armor, in fact he wasn’t played at all back then.

This is just about her mechanic that is her whole identity.

actually they like brig since she makes dive possibly right now?? how out of touch are you people

HIstorically, they love Lucio and Ana for their ā€œutilityā€. Brig is in, and its ticking off some other Support players, and the Masters+ crew that despises and always will despise Brig. This is not hard to see if you try.

My point is don’t whine about armor enabling dive when a much stronger and more consistent mechanic already exists for it. it shows bias.

I’m saying her ā€œmeant to beā€ is not set in stone. Change it for the better.

No wonder devs don’t take this crap serious. So hard to hold a decent conversation.

Yeah double shield poke looking great next month. Be just like this one.

On this ā€˜meant to be’ its being posed one-sided- Brig is not one facet, she has several. She’s anti-dive and and an enabler. This attitude of being purely anti-dive is about as near sighted as saying Ana reserves sleep for defense :roll_eyes:

I love the idea,
I’ve always thought armor should be helpful for spam so it should focus more on resistance, less extra.
and shields are the one ability that should be added on top of hp.
because it’s instead of normal hp you can also buff it from 50 armor to 75armor.
it will also makes more sense lore wise that brig will heal with armor and not normal hp.

Personally I never liked abilities that do different things in different senarios… feel like different results, so this change will make her more consistent.

~We need a shields support~

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you insult the devs then get mad when they don’t take you seriously wow

I call it like I see it. Praise when deserved, blame when not.

I expect nothing less for smart devs as well. If they went out on a whim for every big forum post that can’t hold a decent conversation for 3 paragraphs I wouldn’t respect them in the first place.

Sorry but you’ve ruined any argument you can now make it’s embarrassing seeing you try you don’t get to insult someone then cry when they don’t take you seriously, which actually perfectly describes this place actually.