This is from my personal experiences. If it’s a 1v1 and the both have all their abilities; the tracer should win, as long as she doesn’t use recall before the stun, the tracer is bad, or the brig is good. Just from my experiences
But in regular play Brig counters Tracer every time.
so basically never
Yeah, if they’re together as a team
Brig counters Tracer by invalidating Tracer. Not by actively killing her. Tracer should win that as long as she does not succ.
What?
Most things beat Brigitte in a theoretical 1v1 with infinite open space available and the duel starting at range; it just takes an hour for that duel to end.
Since the game doesn’t actually work that way, many of those same things that win in the theoretical duel against Brigitte are also countered by Brigitte.
Brig counters Tracer by pressing E on Tracer’s target, thus deleting Tracer from the fight with no aim required, on a minimal cooldown. Then later she presses Q and Tracer is erased from the game lobby and you can no longer select her as a hero in character select. It was never about the instant-kill combo; that was just what let her kill everyone else for free.
One day people will learn countering doesn’t just mean killing someone
Maybe
Well, you can’t counter flankers by chasing them away … their role is to go in, do damage/finish low hp, go out. So, you need to kill them, or prevent them from doing damage. First is actually easier than the other … and both are team efforts.
As much as I dislike the character, Moira counters Tracer better. Fade drops sticky bomb from you if she tries to go that route. Otherwise she’s not too hard to chase off with a little bit of pressure. She has to be REALLY accurate to kill you quickly at her most effective range, otherwise you’ll kill her first.
Genji, too, really. Just fade in a random direction when he uses his ultimate and use the drain when he hops around, which is super easy to aim and kills him through deflect.
Tracer’s reload is shorter than Repair Pack’s cooldown. If it’s impossible for a Tracer to kill a single thing with Brig existing, it’s because her aim sucks, not because she can’t numerically overcome the healing. And that’s assuming none of Tracer’s allies are ever shooting anything themselves.
If a flanker doesn’t kill all they accomplished was giving the enemy supports ult charge
You realize she can’t one shot anymore…
This game always been about ego boasting when it comes to dps heroes. The moment a support hero kills ya or something not to a bad player’s perspective. The hero gets nerf and I am certain most of the developers here falls on that logic. That’s one of the major reason why this game went downhill besides OWL and slow tweaking. The fact they catered to a crowd complaints just to nerf a hero.
Players forget Junkrat is pure glass cannon and guess what happens to him. They nerf him until he’s no longer a threat and then they gloat. I hate players and developers who caters to that so watching this game fail more or Blizzard in general pleases me. Until they come to realization continue to fail as you usually do Blizzard developers.
Why am I like this towards this game because constructive threads or even constructive criticism doesn’t reach Blizzard at all. They do as they please and throws whatever leftover stale crumbs at their audience.
I was with you till that last part. Last I checked, repair pack needs to be aimed. I’ve tried looking at the wall and hitting my teammate standing behind me with it or throwing it at the full health tank and hoping it magically redirects itself to the low health Genji, but oddly that doesn’t work. It seems to only go where I aim it.
This is like arguing that Harmony Orb is a skill shot.
Lol they both still need to be aimed at the intended target.
Lucio is a god at countering Tracer. Much better option the Moira I think.
Brig countered Tracer because she could kill her by unloading all her abilities on a stunned Tracer and her armor went from perma 150 armor to perma 100 armor to decaying 100 armer. It didn’t matter if she avoided the Brig or not.
Now Rally doesn’t counter Tracer except when active (big deal) and her Wombo combo no longer works on Tracer since she can easily keep Brig at an arms length without risk of dying from her dirt poor dps.
The best she can do is be a deterrent if your within shield slam distance of whomever ur trying to protect like Ana or Zen. But then your not really properly positioned soooo yeah…….
she hard countered her and now she soft counters her