Brig 6 years in is still a disaster btw

And I know brig players will swear on everything they love that brig is “perfect right now”. She isn’t.

A hero who only works in ONE SINGULAR NICHE and in that niche proceeds to make an entire subsection of heroes completely obsolete so much so that brig players response is “just go poke lol” needs to be addressed.

I don’t know what changes need to be made, but make brig more usable in other compositions (even though she’s getting used in rush as we speak with ram juno brig / jq juno brig) and lower her effectiveness against dive so that trying to play a singular dive hero doesn’t immediately become so impossible that you HAVE to swap to a poke hero, because there is physically nothing you can do against a brig backline.

This game doesn’t need more reasons to give for people to just lock hitscans / poke heroes.

And no this isn’t “omg i need supports to be free kills”. No, I need the backline to be AT ALL contestable. Being more difficult to kill is one thing, being straight up impossible to break through unless you launch a 4 man assault squad into that backline or you just 2 tap them from range, is idiotic.

And I get the point brig players. “Brig is only usable when dive is meta, so make dive not meta and she dies off”. Which btw… that’s not how that works. Because if I try to play dive… when dive isn’t meta… guess what hero they’ll still swap to? That’s correct. She will always be a problem.

The devs say they want to reduce hard counters. Look at brig.

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I have an idea. We could always increase the displacement resistance of tanks. That might help!

:muscle: :face_with_monocle:

it’s not her displacement that’s the problem, it’s the repair packs making the other support uncontestable and if you go for her she puts her shield up and gets healed back to full.

I couldn’t care less about whip shot. It’s not what makes her or the other support unkillable.

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I… Did you try shooting their heads instead?

:muscle: :joy:

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Pharah. You’re welcome

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Thank you for proving my point about “lol just counterswap more!”

I also can’t physically go pharah so that’s also a thing. And a brig’s dps can just… go hitscan? lol.

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I played Brig last night and it was the most hideous thing. We won but I don’t know how. I got play of the game and everything. I constantly feel like there’s spaghetti falling out of my pocket when I play Brig. Why is she like this?

Seriously though, are her heals per second actually substantially higher than any other supports? Does the triple pack stack or something? I am relatively lost as to what the problem is here.

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It goes both ways. If I’m on Brig, and the enemy has a Pharah or a good Junkrat, I’m forced to swap off of her too. And just for the record, I played a lot of Pharah before her rework made her feel cheap. I was never actually afraid of hitscans because I played her flanking stealth bomber style. Now with her rework, that style has become easier and more accessible

You could also try playing Junkrat and playing him flanker/diver style. Go to a Rat main for pointers on the style

And I don’t know what’s up with this, but I’ve actually outplayed Brigs on Tracer before. You want to stay just outside of her range, melt her shield, and then go for the kill once her defenses are gone

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I don’t get these “Brig is op and needs nerfs” posts. Any time I play Brig I get utterly destroyed. I can’t protect squat. Reaper is in the backline? Literally nothing I can do about that. If I bash him I put myself in his prime attacking range and get shredded and die very fast. If I whip him it doesn’t phase him at all because it barely moves him away and he’ll just W and left click me to death after. If I left click him I’m once again in his prime attacking range and my shield is also down so he’ll shred me. Nothing I can do to Reaper.
If I’m doing even remotely well, Pharah comes out because her rocket damage STILL goes straight through Brig’s shield and makes her utterly useless.
If Winston dives the backline I literally cannot do anything about him because he both hits through my shield and shreds through armor.
Junkrat also destroys her. Soldier also destroys her. Anyone with range destroys her.

She’s only useful in very specific circumstances, otherwise she is completely useless and countered by the vast majority of the cast. She seems like she’d be good to play right beside a tank like Reinhardt, except she can’t, she’ll die almost instantly if she does that.
Brig sucks. She’s by far the worst support in the game.

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No lol. The HOT duration just gets increased by 2 seconds. There is an initial “burst” heal but its only 25

Other supports have higher burst heal than her.

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I main flanker/dive characters, and try and force dive as much as possible, with Sombra and Ball being my favorites.

Brig is fine. She’s really good at her particular job, and struggles to get any comparable value outside of it. That said her job: “peel for your cosupport” was sorely needed. The Support role needed some kind of option facing Dive besides just “die immediately and hope your team kills the enemy quicker.”

Even if she makes my job significantly harder, Brig is in a good place and her current state is healthy for the game.

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It’s the fact that the packs are an unmissable granting of 125 hp. Other supports have better HPS but there’s a reason brig gets played against dive and to make the other support untouchable.

Brig just makes whatever support she’s paired with absolutely uncontestable unless like I said, “just go poke lol!” or you launch a 4 man assault squad. It’s too much.

Make her viable in other comps and reduce her effectiveness against dive.

She doesn’t. She’s meta as we speak. There’s a reason that when a team needs an uncontestable backline… it involves a brig.

That’s the problem, she’s TOO good at her niche. I’d rather have her be useful in more areas instead of it being “I get played in this one comp and when I do get played I make an entire subsection of heroes obsolete”.

A support who makes other supports more difficult to kill is one thing. Making the backline entirely uncontestable, is another.

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Meta where? High ranked comp? I see her less than any other character in the game in all QP modes and Arcade, and I barely see her at all in Gold or Silver ranked.
I could not care less if she’s meta in Masters+. The vast majority of us don’t play there. That’s like 2% of the player population.

Yes.

I’m willing to say that brig juno is one of the most uncontestable backlines to ever exist. And when it isn’t brig juno being played, it’s the OTHER uncontestable backline of ana brig. Everytime a backline needs to be untouchable, it involves brig.

Well unfortunately that’s where you should balance your competitive shooter. I can say the same thing.

I don’t care about what Jimmy and friends do in lower elos because they don’t play the game correctly and don’t know how to play the game effectively. They’re still concerned with junkrat in big 2024.

If we actually nerfed tracer so that she wasn’t constantly S tier, we wouldn’t need Brig, but tracer (and widow) are two heroes Blizzard would rather keep strong at the expense of the rest of the game.

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I play brig regardless if it makes sense. She’s fun to play that’s all that should matter.

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Again, Pharah. Specifically the flanker stealth-bomber Pharah like what I described further up. AKA the one I used to play before the rework made it too easy. Nothing pokey about that, I promise you

Dawg. I don’t play DPS.

And again, brig’s DPS can just go hitscan… ??? Even with “stealth bomber” you’re going to get microwaved unless you know extensively how to play that style of pharah. She isn’t exactly a popular hero, no one is going to just hop on pharah and be able to do that.

The 125 HP is over 2 seconds. By this logic you should have done a thread on Lifeweaver instead. He ca. Do 80 unmisable burst, and 160 over a 2 second duration

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