I hate ashes ultimate its so frustrating to play against and it takes no effort or timing to use. its not like torbs turret where it has a lower range and HP but this i just i dont know how they can keep on making these very unskilled and unfun heroes to play against. Today I was playing on Rein on junkertown and we almost won the match it was just me and ashe left she presses q (doesnt have to aim in any specific direction, because that would be too difficult i guess?!!) and bob launches me in to the air 5m away from the point and I as I try to kill him and at the same time I need to protect myself ashes just walks on the point and takes…
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- Shield
- CC
- Reaper can just go toe to toe with BOB and gain health prettymuch
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BOB needs to be slightly nerfed in damage and Ashe herself might need a buff. Or we can just cc and kill him like the fodder he is lol but on the last leg of a game I have noticed that a bob ult pretty much is an ALMOST IWINBUTTON.
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BOB is exactly what Molten Core used to be, just with a charge attack. He’ll destroy uncoordinated teams and he does make a fight with Ashe a 2v1, but against teams who know what they’re doing and are aware of where she positioned him, he’s borderline useless, especially if they have like a Sombra, Reaper, even an Orisa to just block him off with a barrier for awhile
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I think I’ve seen 2 successful B.O.B Ults so far.
That’s with an Ashe on both teams since she was released. Most the time he is straight up ignored or blown to bits before he gets any real value.
Part of it has to do with the bad Ashes but BoB is a pretty straight forward counterable Ult.
I been leaning on Hog a lot recently and all I do is Hook him out of LOS and walk away.
He’s easily countered by the lowest form of CC, a Boop.
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Everyone seems to be missing the example I gave or just choose to read the tittle lol
bob isn’t hard to deal with, but he must be dealt with.
he is a glorified distraction. his job is to buy ashe space/time to land shots.
his added bonus of capping payload is highly situational but sometimes very handy.
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Well its mostly bob, dynamite, and an Ash with some aim. Her kit is just so nicely made that on a last point grab she is very good. I’m not saying its OP it can be dealt with. But Moira orb with Dynamite and BOB can hurt the whole team lol I just feel they are going to nerf BOB once they fix Ashe’s shooting (if they haven’t already). The forum will get her nerfed somehow.
Fyi, Ashe has to aim BOB
I don’t like BOB as a game mechanic either. At the very least he shouldn’t contest objectives.
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With the exception of a couple of Ults, any other Ult would have outright deleted you.
An example where you get single Ulted into losing a point is not a good reason to demand a nerf.
Also, Bob runs in a linear line from where he was deployed. Aiming slightly off often results in Bob running into the smallest object and coming to a full stop. In other words BoB’s usefulness can even be countered as simple as body blocking (although I’d sugguest doing ti with hero’s with a little self defence or you’ll prob die from the launch+turret combo.)
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There are some really easy counters to B.O.B.
- Ana sleep dart
- Sombra hack (2x for the entire ULT, 1x for most of the ULT)
- Sombra EMP
- Brigette Shield Bash (if you’re in the right position)
- Positioning (B.O.B. needs LoS, I have often dodged him, while standing very close to him, by just getting on the other side of the payload/using map geometry to my advantage).
Personally I think BOB is a pretty underwhelming ULT. He’s a glorified level 3 Torb turret.
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If he is near a corner, you can break his LoS but still have sights on him to shoot.
Oh and putting symmetra turret on his feet will screw his ai. He loves shooting whatever is closest.
Sorry to repeat myself but I have only 1 issue with BOB, Ashe is completely free to act during his duration, that’s a big deal.
Yes he can be CC’d walled off etc. So he’s not that hard to deal with, BUT he’s his own thing. Put that argument towards any other damage dealing ult, like Rocket Barrage of Death Blossom or even 76s Visor. You can dart them too, and there isnt someone else still running around doing fantastic damage.
Obviously she aimed B.O.B. at you if it launched you in the air.
And if it was just you, Ashe, and B.O.B., you could just hold your shield up and dance around them as you move back onto the objective.
But isn’t that what makes Ashe so unique?
And Hanzo is kind of similar, once he unleashes dragon he can still shoot and gain ult charge from them?
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It is, and to be honest Im not ENTIRELY sure it’s a problem, it does make me a little nervous though lol. Like what about 3 months down the road when people REALLY get to know Ashe? Will it be a bigger deal then? Dunno.
Ya Hanzo is the closest thing for sure, but it’s a little different. Like Lets say BOB gets tossed out and I use my Sym ult. I can effectively wall BOB off (and get a free level 3 beam muahahaha) and Ashe can cross the barrier and come at me, pretty much same as Hanzo. Difference is, I can sidestep a Dragon and get back to business, BOB effectively keeps me on my side of the barrier though, if I cross it, im dead in 2 seconds. EDIT: Thats if ONLY BOB is shooting me, again, Ashe is free to operate so if shes on me too, thats instadeath.
Hes a zoning ult too, in addition to everything else lol. Dragons are kinda zoney… zoney? That a word? lol
Poor BOB, he doesn’t even get a say because no one can play as him.
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Yeah they might need to tone him down once the pros show us how to play Ashe/Bob. I played a game where the Ashe placed bob in a cheeky position. Bob managed to run past our team so our Rein turned around to swing at Bob leaving everyone vulnerable to getting sniped by Ashe. It’s possible they need to tune Ashe in the future though.
You’re right, but if Bob is shooting your wall he will not switch targets. Just see if he is shooting at Sym’s wall, and if so you’re safe to cross it.
Yeah they are both zoning ults. Not sure if zoney is a word, but I will use it in Overwatch now. 
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BOB never does things the way I want him to.
Bob is way to good on everything. It’s like having a 13th player in the game. He can auto aim, does 1092 damage (if he manages to do all of it without interruption), has 1200 HP, lasts for 10 seconds and can stall the point/load. It’s ridiculous. I understand wanting to make something new, but this is way overboard.
Some of his kit needs to be modified, but I would be ok with all of it if he couldn’t stall the point considering he’s the lowest skill level ult in the game at this point…