Rebel, what do you mean, I can take a screen shot of a game that I just had a TOP 500 on my team and on the same team I had a silver player…
I never had that large of a gap in OW1 of players.
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I wish more people were talking about this and thank you for posting this. This was the last thing I ever expected. Now that the heroes are actually somewhat balanced, this has somehow turned into the worst season of OW for me, hands down.
I’ve been playing for about 18 months. And I’m new to gaming, like not just PC gaming, but gaming. OW was the 2nd game I played after playing COD for 3 months and switching to OW.
But I’ve worked really, really hard at this game. I love it. It took a full year to get out of bronze for me, but then I climbed through silver and hit gold last season. I had a 59% win rate and I loved Silver because there are SO fewer smurfs then there are in bronze… the kind of smurfs that just stay in bronze with their alt accounts just to toy with and bully bronze players. Silver has some smurfs, sure, but it was nice to play with and against mostly people actually at my level.
Now, season 3, and suddenly, after a rank decay back to Silver, I’m being matched in games where I’m the only silver player in the match, or maybe there is one on the other team, too. I’m ALWAYS the worst player on my team. I get told to kill myself close the every single match and usually not just once per match. It’s the most humiliating experience I’ve had since I was in middle school, which is like 30+ years ago.
4/5 matches are absolute STOMPS. Most of them, I’m on the losing team. Higher ranked players have, of course, quickly figured out that all they need to do is look for the crappy silver player on the other team and focus him (me).
Support will sometimes have my back, because I now always warn my team before the match that I’m silver and I’ll try my hardest. But other times, support hears/reads that and just decides it’s not even worth bothering to heal me at all, and I mean like literally not once the entire match… and I don’t complain, ever, because I know they are just trying to win and it very well may be the smartest approach for them to take.
But it’s the most miserable experience. When Blizzard decided to mix eloes like this, how did they not think “this is gonna suck for the Silver players, they’re always gonna be the worst on the team every match”???
In just a few short weeks, I’m not sure if I’m willing to even try playing comp ever again. It’s just such a degrading, humiliating, truly awful experience almost every match. I spent a whole year busting my butt, facing non-stop smurfs in bronze and finally climbed out. Then I had one actually “fun” season, and now Blizzard has put me right back in the same situation, facing nothing but players that have been playing OW for 6 years and gaming their entire lives. If I wanted that again, I’d just stay in bronze and play against smurfs.
And I’m TIRED of being told to kill myself 100 times a day in a matter of 5 hours of playing a video game that is supposed to be “fun”.
I’m sad, tbh. I feel like I just wasted an entire year and a half on a game that see’s players like me as completely invisible, and will forever force me into toxic, bullying, humiliating misery for as long as I allow myself to play.
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That’s why I stopped playing comp during S2 - partly because Ram had his broken ult and I was S1/G5 and was being placed in Diamond and Masters matches. I could somewhat hold my own but I would be constantly targeted because I was most likely the lowest ranked player in the match and I got flamed for it.
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Because the optics of a 10 minute queue in a free 2 play game would be terrible and potentially spark a death spiral. So… they’ve basically turned their MM system into a slot machine.
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Well, if you want an actual answer you your question. Here are the answers I got from the guy who is working on the matchmaking.
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So what I’m getting here is they can reject a lower level Support main but can pick a high level DPS main who happened to queue for Support?
Or am I way off base here?
Tbh, it’s a bit vague. But my interpretation of it:
- They have enough players per Role, for almost all skill tiers
- But the matchmaking search ranges are too wide right now.
- And only using very few variables to indicate how skillful a player is.
- In a future update, they are going to narrow that search range, and use more variables to determine player skill.
always the same speech: it will be better soon.
except it never gets better soon, but worse every time.
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If they do have enough players, the fix is trivial to implement.
I’m also wondering what you mean by “variables,” considering matchmaking is only supposed to be based on one number, your actual skill rating, determined only by wins and losses. They have said explicitly they don’t consider any individual performances for matchmaking.
Yup. I expect them to reverse that decision, at least for most ELOs.
Your guess is as good as mine.
their talk keeps changing, once it’s the stats, another time it’s the W/L ratio, next time it will be the size of your feet.
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they’ve inadvertently broken the matchmaker and don’t understand how to fix it
same as the footstep audio, been 4 years and they still haven’t figured that out
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Incidentally the guy who wrote the original matchmaker code who was a specialist at matchmaker design, now works at Microsoft…
everyone repeats in this forum that the elo system is suitable for 1vs1, not 5vs5, and therefore it can never work well.
honestly, would you want to be apart of overwatch? the game is kinda of a joke in the gaming community at this point
every time they try and fix it, it gets worse somehow
I agree, I take their answers with a grain of salt because the narrative is constantly changing. I’m betting we would be 20 seasons in before they admit the matchmaking was busted and just threw random patches to make it seem like they were fixing it.
yes, we were gas light for season 1 and 2 that the matchmaker was fine and SR/ comp ranking were perfect
so if you were stuck in plat, get better
turns out the system was busted after all
WHO WOULD HAVE GUESSED THE PLAYERS WERE RIGHT ALL ALONG???!?
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Well I dunno, probably not right now.
But at one point I did write a resume, and had a Blizzard staff member on another project review it.
Basically got the impression I’d need a lot more formal qualifications if I wanted to apply.
That said, I got a house in a great location, with ridiculously low interest rates, with a high paying job. So I probably wouldn’t actually apply. But it was fun seeing what the steps would look like.
That said, I do what I can
They need to sell skins - remember that patent Activision/Blizzard registered? You know, the one they spent energy on, but would never ever-evereverever use in a game?
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Yes, mental manipulation and abusive use of frustration, that obvious now.