I don’t agree with blizzard at all this game and competitive is so bad right now, Sr does not dictate skill at all and it’s basically meaningless and MMR makes it even worse . The group system which allows people from two ranks to be on the same team which literally ruins games especially under diamond (getting a bronze in gold game or diamond in gold ) . matchmaking competitive is a mess right now as its rarely even and they really need an overhaul and get rid of SR entirely or its still going to be a mess as it feels right now getting what you think are people on your level but then they are either way better for their rank or should not be that rank but somehow fell into it, it doesn’t feel good to play. just my two cents.bought the watchpoint pack and hoping for real change in comp in ow2 if not I can’t imagine playing with battle pass for something that feel unfun.Hope this did not come across as jerkish
They can’t reset it and i’ll tell you exactly why.
IF THEY RESET SR/MMR FOR OVERWATCH 2, THEN WHEN PEOPLE RANK UP MANY/MOST WILL BE IN COMPLETELY DIFFERENT TIERS AND THEN EVERYONE WILL KNOW THE MATCHMAKER IS BROKEN.
I guarantee the person who made the matchmaker convinced everyone to keep the SR/MMR the same, to cover their broken matchmaking.
It’s just more covering up the fact that the matchmaker is broken.
It will be somewhat hectic for a week at most just like the release of ow1 was, not to mention the already low chances of being matched with someone in diamond or above. All this mmr reset does is assure competitive integrity.
I think you might be behind on the discussion. The matchmaker is verifiably broken right now and it sounds like it’s not going to be fixed for ow2. There is no integrity.
And after a week everyone will end up exactly where they belong lol. Gm players will rise back up to gm, bronze players will fall straight back to bronze mmr. Just as intended.
Where’s that information from that they’ll not reset SR? Can I please have a valid source here? And sorry but, where’s the facts about matchmaking to be completely broken? I really don’t think it is to be honest. They just allow more garbage games to take place because of the amount of waiting-for-a-match-time? That’s how I see it. And people will actually get placed differently because it is a newer game with slightly different mechanics so yeah, not everyone will be the same as before. Some will be better, some will be worse, depends on how the new playstyle matches your own playstyle. I actually can’t believe, they will not reset SR and everything else (except content you own ofc). It would simply make no sense to not reset SR, so proof that they’ll take over your SR would be in order…
well then please verify!!
lots of individuals make posts saying they cant climb due to factors X,Y,Z…when in reality they over inflate their own value in the game and the value they provide their team.
Every bit of “evidence” will suspiciously come from anecdotal evidence conceived by players suffering from Dunning Kruger
- And likely main character syndrome
- Overwatch players are hella entitled
It’s not. Response above.
#DeadGame
Player base population is at an all-time low.
Well it’s been verified countless times and it’s not really my job to prove it to every person who asks for it, but you seem reasonable like you’re just looking for answers so I’ll give a little here:
I have four accounts that are Masters or Diamond, then I have one account that I can’t even get out of plat. I made a videos of me winning easily in high diamond and struggling massively in gold tier, which should rarely happen, yet it’s a common occurrence. This shows that on certain accounts there is something wrong, broken, or strange with the matchmaker. Someone might say “oh well you’re an awful player, you deserve to be gold/plat,” I’m ok with that, I’m not egotistical about it, but then why do I have four accounts that I 100% solo queued to diamond/masters? Is the matchmaker broken for letting gold/plats get (and stay) to diamond masters, or is it broken because a proven diamond/masters player has an account that can’t seem to get out of plat? Take your pick, I’m fine with either.
Here’s another random person telling the same story I am, this is just one of countless, I just grabbed this one off the front page for convenience:
Then be sure to watch this video made by a youtuber where thousands of people in the comments are all repeating the same thing about the broken matchmaker:
For anyone who groups or just plays casual comp I would say the matchmaker can pretty easily convince you that it’s functioning properly. For people who have multiple accounts and play a substantial amount of time it becomes extremely obvious that it’s broken. For more proof, just simply look at the first page of this forum, it’s riddled with people discussing how it’s broken.
Reddit has become so bad that they are now banning posts that discuss the broken matchmaking to control the wildfire from spreading.
I mean it’s F2P just make a new account lol
I don’t want to be one of those guys. I always rewatch my games and try to get better instead of blaming my teammates and I actually managed to climb rankes due to this…
But it seems so suspicious that I get games when I literally carry the team with 60 or even more % of team kills participation and being placed on cards at the end of the day…like there is no doubt I was the driving force behind our victory, objectively. And as soon as I win lets say 3 games in a row I get into a game when the enemy is destroying us and I don’t mean just winning I mean destroying the whole team to the point when we cant even cap the first point. And then another game like that and another…and then on the next day I again get a game where I can actually carry the team.
Yeah you can tell it is keeping me in my rank because that’s where I belong but getting someone 600 sr below yours on the team and getting absolutely destroyed doesnt feel like my skill hit the ceiling. It feels like the game is trying to keep you where you are no matter how good you are.
People always say if Top500 got into a gold game he would definitely win and even carried an account back to gm and that’s 100% true. But the thing no one talks about is that if you would be completely able to have 50% winrate in one rank higher, that skill level is just not enough to consistently carry games to that rank . I do basically believe that if your skill is let’s say 3000 you can be stuck at 2500 unable to climb with higher that 55% winrate…
I am really excited about 5v5. From what I played in Beta it feels like your impact on the game is huge compared to 6v6. Maybe I’ll be able to climb the rank again
This is exactly where I was when I first started suspecting something broken with matchmaking. Every game I’ve played before I would work on myself, improve, implement strategies, rank up. Not this one. I would work on myself, improve, rank up, then go on a loss streak right back to where I started. The adverse is true, I could play super casual, not work on improving my game, lose some matches and then go on a win streak right back to where I started. Basically I can play within a skill level of around 1500SR and stay at the same rank.
Well, but there are still people who are able to climb not one but two whole ranks and even higher. How they do it I have no idea. Sometimes I just feel like complete idiot because I can’t even tell what I could have done better.
Because they actually understand the game, possess the mechanics required, and can adjust their play style to synergize with their team (irrespective of rank).
Why not ask a more experienced player for help? If you’re genuine and interested, willing to learn and willing to check your ego, they’ll probably always help you.
Again, interesting how you have four accounts that are masters/diamond and can’t show proof of any of them and then think your essays are going to be convincing enough. ESPECIALLY when everybody have seen that your gameplay looks to be that of a silver/gold player 
I do this consistently, I am a GM player and can consistently climb to this SR with high winrate. What matters is that you work on minimizing your mistakes, maximizing value AND consistency
Most gm players will fall to plat in ow2, sorry to say but the vast majority are boosted or just park there on off roles. Not to mention anyone who relied on double shield, cc heroes, low skill heroes will all fall.
@op agree 100%, another thing is alt accounts that kill competitive integrity. Im guilty of this aswell but its the only way to play with friends in comp. Still ruins it though
Nah.
Just because it’s (one of) the best tank comp doesn’t mean it doesn’t require loads of gamesense (esp if you play sigma at high level)
You can argue it for some masters and diamond players, but gm is another level of skill. The boosted players will fall yes, mostly those are the ones pre role queue though. I would like it reset either way to get the pre role queue mfs out of my comp games.
Most is a bit much huh lol. Agreed though
I know it’s rigged with sandbagging smurfs or accounts labeled as smurfs (good players misranked), not because I’m arrogant but because I watch it happen on the enemy team. There will be a player on the enemy team that is really good and his counterpart (the other dps/tank etc.) will be absolutely feeding. Neither person belongs in the rank for opposite reasons, but that really good player loses because he cannot make up the difference.