Being bashed, hacked, and melted by sym turrets is NOT fun

It’s pretty self explanatory. No one likes any of these, they’re not necessarily broken, but it’s so much of a hassle that it ruins the fun of playing. Even if we win the game it’s not “oh man cool another win” it’s “good thing I’m done playing”. I understand balance and game mechanics are hard, but this is out of hand. Everyone has been complaining about these mechanics almost since they came out.

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It’s simple to avoid them though, Turrets are weaker than they’ve ever been (just shoot them from afar or when they are coming at you), shoot at Sombra to stop her hack, and just stay away from Brigitte (I’m assuming that’s who you’re talking about) and destroy her shield from far away.

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As he stated, he didn’t say they couldn’t be dealt with, he said they aren’t fun. And they aren’t.

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Is dying ever fun though?

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LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

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So is being hooked, turreted down by bastion, torbs turret, soldier high burst rockets, junkrats trap and mines, pharah concussion blast off the stage, orisa halting off the stage, lucio boop, mccree stun and headshotted, widow headshot…

Are these abilities inherently unfun? Or is dying overall unfun, no matter how you die?

Is there is a fun way to die?

The only solution against these “unfun” abilities would be to only make this game a pure first person shooter where everyone simply has a gun and no other damage abilities (Hey! Just like Sombra, look at that!). Sounds fun and imaginative.

By the way, saying “everyone” is very disingenuous. Not everyone complains about the hack ability, and people that do shouldn’t. Because it’s not a broken OP ability. Not everyone complains about Sym turrets, in fact many ppl say they’re useless and easily destroyed. And Briggite’s stunning size and cooldown have been toned to bring it’s overall power down, and it’s a good ability to balance out the fact that she is not a long ranged DPS shooter.
You could say “most ppl” though I’d still have doubts it’s better than saying “everyone” because it’s simply not true.

Aaaanyways what I’m trying to say is that “this ability is unfun” is an extremely stupid argument, because a.) Dying is supposed to be unfun and b.) The idea of “fun” is subjective.

And well most of the characters you complained about aren’t even used that much in the first place save for Briggite, and people know how to deal with her already.

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This.

I can say being dash combod to death by someone hard to hit is unfun. I could say dealing with random burst explosions out of nowhere are unfun. I could say straight up dying from a random headshot is unfun.

This is a terrible argument OP

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Fun and interactive

Yeah I usually am having a ball when I get hit by enemy abilities. But not these. I’m all the time getting hit by dva’s rockets and saying “woohoo! Party!”

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“BEING BASHED, HACKED, AND MELTED BY SYM TURRETS IS NOT FUN”

Nor is being Hooked, Uppercut, Rocketpunched, Booped, Slept, etc

It’s part of the game though, and you either learn to play around it and anticipate what your enemy who possesses those abilities will do, or you don’t and you complain about how unfun the abilities they have are.

Having people purposely throw, is unfun.
People unwilling to switch off a character who is hard countered is unfun.
Anas who can’t aim, or they can aim, but you’re against a shield comp, and are the sole healer of your team is unfun.

I mean, we could honestly go on for quite some time about qualities and features of the game that are unfun, but when it comes down to it, adapt or leave.

Having to earn a paycheck is unfun.
Having to deal with annoying people is unfun.
Paying taxes is unfun.
Saying unfun is unfun, when it should be “not fun” or “anti-fun”.

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Hook has 8 second cool down, will not always lead to instant kill, can be avoided with positioning, and relies on skill. Bastion/torb can be counted by hanzo, widow, junk, and a multitude of things. hack is pretty fast and can’t always be avoided (I.e. a tracer harassing a team). Soldiers rockets require aim, only do 120 and wont destroy you unless he can also hit his shots. Getting environmental killed depends on the map and can also be avoided by going a different path or using a movement ability. Mccrees stun can be blocked by shield, and doesn’t come out in an instant. Widow can be avoided with cover, and you can dive her. If i get killed by junk trap its “My fault, i should have looked down” but when brig bashes me , I cant really avoid her, as i HAVE to get close. Sym turrets i have to look around, shoot them, take fire from the enemy team because they slow me down, and do a surprising amount of damage.

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Hanzo is the king of unfun. Just spamming arrows and if one lucks out and hits your head, you’re dead.

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Literally a lie. They used to have 1 hp. Now they take multiple shots.

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They are really low health…

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Play Pharah then blast away at Brig.

and you do not have to waste 30 seconds trying to put them up again because you have to walk forever to place them in a spot you want to put them that would be useful only to have them destroyed again because any aoe damage sneezed on them

Honestly, I am perfectly fine with the cc in the game. They are not highly spammable as they are almost all linked to some weakness like range or cooldowns of several seconds.

If an enemy team is smart enough to say bash me as reinhardt with their brigitte, then circle around my front to whip shot me into their teammates into a sleep dart. I say well-played. Good strategic stuff right there.

It sucks more to be up right and doing stuff, then suddenly just dead because you got alt fired into the head by roadhog or widow or hanzo. Instant deaths are far more annoying to die to than the enemy team taking a long time to go about it by having to combine several abilities to secure a KO.

Getting hit by anything is unfun. Getting sniped by a Widow for daring to peek your head out for 0.5 sec is unfun. Getting slowed by Mei is unfun. Getting booped is unfun.

Here’s a tip: Getting killed by anything isn’t that fun for anyone. If it was, people wouldn’t try not to get killed.

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I am kinda allergic to hamster. He has fur

I get where the OP is coming from. Dying due to loss of control is never feels good. But still, be glad it never reaches the level you see in WoW.

So many stunlock deaths…