I have a question.
After we had a wild and surely depressing evening in qp - I got curious. To all the Ximmers / Cronus-User. Why? Why do you use MnK on Console?
We had a Stack today like 3-4 times in a row (because we also played as a stack.) and their Widow + Ashe used MnK with Mercy Boost. My Friend asked them out and they were like: Yup we’re using MnK.
They we’re absolutely open with that. I asked them in a friendly tone, why they’re doing this and they told me: They wanna make ppl cry in comp with various smurf accounts from bronze to masters and they find it funny when people are mad about that.
Then they insulted me bcs I’m using controller.
So…seriously now…Why do you need 2 cheat? And to the Players with Controllers who reached master or above: You have my respect! 
I reached masters 4 on dps and since then they MnK Lobbies got heavier and tbh its no fun at all. :')
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I was thinking about buying a console so I could get the legal aim assist lol. Honest question, why not use every advantage offered to you? Especially when they don’t even ban it or say not to do it anywhere. The only thing keeping people from doing it is an unspoken honor code, and that’s not worth much.
Are people with 144 fps monitors cheating because they can react faster than people with 60 fps?
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It is gonna be hilarious when there is a massive ban wave from using these devices hahaha
PCMR all the way!
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From my perspective as a native KBM who user who only has PC accounts connected to this tittle (as someone who has used one in a capacity that is disconnected from any account on here, or in a capacity associated with any multiplayer portion of this title) it absolutely grants a distinct advantage over that of a controller user (both aim assisted and non aim assisted).
However, as a native KBM user, drawbacks became abundantly apparent in the realm of input lag, emulated feel, settings, and even the combination of all trying to overcome aim assistance while tracking a target. If anyone has ever driven a vehicle that auto-centers in a lane, it feels like that with AA, but with the addition of a distinct quarter second delay, and very sticky. Against a native KBM user, it’s a second rate facsimile.
If I had XIM back in the 360 days, I would’ve absolutely used it in games like CoD and Halo, as someone who absolutely hated controller (I just could never pick it up correctly compared to my friends) and would’ve preferred a KBM input. Not because of an advantage, but just because it felt more natural to me. But I can see why players would want to use it for a nefarious leg up.
But since I don’t use one in my gameplay (I’m on PC, and have no account tied to OW or OW2 on any console), nor do I even own one first hand or even second hand, it’s 100% absolutely cheating in any capacity, and is the strongest argument for why we need native KBM support on console, and native full controller support on PC.
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Its not legal tho. Thats the thing.
I know you can use it on console and the adapter is legal to buy, thats okay. But many Games already banned Ximmers. Overwatch also said - its a problem. Ye, I dont know when they do smth about that and if that happens - but Mouse with Aim Assist…that is a weird flex.
And not every Console is supporting those monitors aswell btw. I’m not sure about PS5 tho - but its not supporting every aspect of my monitor.
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It’s basically the same excuse cheaters have for cheating and it’s absolutely unacceptable that Blizzard has let them have free reign over the console community for this long something needs to be done.
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Thats one of the most honest words of someone who used mnk. a huge thank you!!! 
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You wouldn’t think that considering they don’t do anything about it and don’t speak about it ever.
They already spoke about that.
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I want to make it abundantly clear that I’ve used one for comparison sake because I think it’s important (especially as someone who has spent a majority of their gaming ‘career’ as a PC player), but never in a way that would’ve cost anyone in this game their QOL, a victory, or a loss.
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theyre bad. end of story.
i played console and was t500 for years until i quit for pc solely bc of how miserable xim/cronus made console… and everytime you ask a ximmer/cronus why they do it, 90% of the time they ignore you/dont answer and the remaining 10% is filled with “its just more simple” “mouse is easier” “it just feels more comfortable”… or the best one, “i dont use the aim assist” when THEY BLATANTLY DO. I WATCHED THEIR REPLAYS EVERY TIME… THEY JUST LIE… how pathetic
yeah, id think mouse+aim assist is INSANELY EASY especially against controller players with god knows how much input lag is on their tv, controller players have a lower capped turn speed, and controller movement is COMICAL to instantaneous a+d strafe on keyboard, even on console…
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Up until I got a PC, I was using Hori PS4 Mouse/Gamepad.
Its significantly better and this is from someone who disables aim assist since it screws with Sniping. Why? Aim assist will pull your sights when one target, that’s closer, runs infront of your first target you’re trying to Snipe.
Sure it was expensive but in my search I saw options as low as 30 USD. So there is no excuse of it being an exclusive/expensive option.
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More so that Console manufacturers have let them run rampant especially with the introduction of native KBM support.
This is the first time I’ve heard of this. And $300?! That’s insane!
On PC I’d actually looked into a movement option that incorporated an analog stick (smoother controllable rate movement interested me), but everything I found suggested such a thing didn’t exist. The Razer Orbweaver and Tartarus were close, but everything I read suggested the thumbstick wasn’t used in that capacity.
I’ve seen posts here that suggest as much.
The main difference is that tech is supported, when you’re clearly circumventing parameters put into place to access mechanics that weren’t meant to be accessed by certain inputs.
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Because it’s an “accessibility option for disabled gamer”, Microsoft and Sony literally let these device run rampant just because some guy who might be disabled might want to use Xim. They leave it up to the developers which is ridiculous because they 100% have the tools to stop these things.
Cheating is just a very boring way to play the game. Sure, it sounds fun to have 100% accuracy, but theres no ‘rewarding’ feeling when u get a kill. Its more fun to go on a journey to improve, and learn and all that, isnt it?
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Is that official? Or is that just the assumption the community of gamers holds?
I thought I read something about Microsoft addressing the issue a little while back suggesting it wasn’t supported.
I could’ve sworn that MNK was banned on console in OW? Either way, AA isn’t all it’s made to be, you can take forever to get the settings right on top of the fact that unlike most other games, there is no movement acceleration in the game. There’s also the fact PC has a lot more buttons to assign inputs for various actions that may be useful.
AA strength
AA window size
AA ease in
Aim ease
Aim smoothing
You’ll probably want to adjust these differently based on what character you’re playing.
Dual zone
Exponential ramp
Linear ramp
Zoom sensitivity
Ally AA
Jay3 did it before. He put top PC against top console and PC basically demolished them. The legal aimbot can only do so much in a game like this. If it were a game like Halo, even without bullet magnetism, it would probably be a lot closer.
Not only that, but correct me if I’m wrong, but MNK get little to no AA, and Xim/ Cronus give it. Isn’t that counted as inputting software not supported in the game to give the player an unfair advantage or something? It’s not hacks, but it’s tricking the system into thinking you’re using a controller when you’re not, right? At least that’s how it’s been described to me.
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Yup. That’s right the thing.
Xim / Cronus is a device who is emulating a controller. So it gives u the whole thing with aim assist and all that stuff. You can to microflicks and all that but with the same options as everyone else on console.
So you’re using a third party device to trick the system. Overwatch thinks you’re using a controller bcs u connected the controller into that device.
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Link because I’m told otherwise on reddit
Nah what it’s truly incredibly broken on is Rainbow Six Siege, the game has no aim assist on console so Xim has a massive advantage over there despite nearly going the way of the dinosaur due to Ubisoft making an anti-cheat to deal with Xim.
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False equivalence. If everyone else is playing football barefoot, you wearing cleats doesn’t make you more skillful, just better equipped.
Playing with the same handicap as everyone else, and still winning shows skill.
Competitive integrity used to mean something.
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