I’m not saying he is OP, but he’s definitely horrible to play against as tank. The balance team just seems to want tanking to be miserable and for people to leave the role.
Sure he gets easier as you go up the ranks, but in gold and lower bastion destroys tanks. How will you get higher rank tanks if people keep leaving the role at gold and below?
No he’s actually not any easier in higher ranks, bastion players in high ranks literally have their whole team pocketing him. I never thought there would be a day where I could say bastion is broken but here we are. Bastion is actually busted right now, so either his counters need buffs like hanzo storm arrows used to be, reaper damage, genji, or bastion needs an actual nerf. Its getting ridiculous how strong this hero has become out of one simple buff.
With Illari’s healing turret this has become easier to do, even in lower ranks. Maybe that’s why it feels like Bastion might be over powered right now.
Honestly, I just don’t understand how people feel good about themselves while playing Bastion. I’d be embarrassed to have to switch to him. Like, I’d straight up rather lose a match, than switch to Bastion. God forbid one is on my team, I just simply don’t heal him, switch off Shields if I’m tank, and anything else I can do to make his life miserable.
Bastion, along with Junkratt, should never have made it out of the Play Testing phase of the game.
Pharah, Roadhog, Mei all problematic as well. And don’t even get me started on Ana’s journey from release til now.
One thing to remember though is the game was originally without Role Queue which allowed for a lot more… room to adjust to heroes that are now problematic WITH role queue.
The role queue switch was a great idea, but evidence shows it wasn’t 100% prepared for. Heroes like Mei and Roadhog feeling out of place in their roles for example.
AND THEN, you also have the 5v5 switch. And more evidence that is was an unprepared mess. You’ve got Roadhog and Ball not being great solo tanks with their kits. The half-cooked doomfist rework, where they tried to still appease to the dps DF players instead of making him an actual good solo tank (a bit biased). Then heroes like Mei and Zenyatta and Ana and Reaper who absolutely dumpstered the solo tank experience.
So many things in this game simply haven’t been given the attention they really need. FOR YEARS. And I’m still counting. Waiting for Hog rework to see what becomes of him. It should serve as a good gauge for how much effort they want to put into PvP balancing.
I been seeing quite a lot of Bastion as well. I wished they rework Mei & Bastion to tank. So that a tank doesn’t have to worrying about being walled and then being slaughtered by bastion and whatever else comes upon that one poor tank.
I wished they brought back OW1 and put this awful heroes as is over there and rework every single hero in OW2.
bastion is sorta like soldier in a way where he is very strong in low and mid ranks but thats it. soldier is very good across all ranks and even now in gm but yea bastion is only a situation pick past mid ranks
also yea… expect bastion when the enemy team thinks the tank is giving them problems. bastion usually solves that lol… sometimes
Why? All you have to do is to not push into him when he has sentry form available and is supported by team. Biggest hitbox in the game, telegraphed transition between going into sentry. Pick any hero with damage absorbtion (Sigma, D.Va, Orisa) and you should die to Bastion 0 times. If you play other tanks then you need to bait the sentry out and just poke him. He is easy matchup to deal with even if your team isn’t great. Just acknowledge the fact that you can’t push as deep as you could vs other heroes because Bastion is a hero that is actually capable of killing out of position tanks rather than just damage them.
Armor got buffed which makes him even more tanky, and the grenade seems to do an interesting amount of damage. That combined with a discord orb from Zen and tanking becomes the most miserable thing possible.
I think he could do with a 50 HP nerf honestly. No one with that amount of damage capability should also have 300 HP.
But for the main post, I genuinely think Bastion didn’t need a single change. I wouldn’t mind if every single buff was reverted, except the faster targeting zone during Artillery is pretty nice. I’d keep that one.
didn’t they just buff like 7 different things on him at once?
oh and for the “bastion is only good in lower ranks” crowd, thats absolutely not true anymore. I’m t500 and I see him constantly, especially to counter dive/rush
Hahaha, funny, really funny. Roadhog problematic? He is the most trash hero in the game right now. If you are having problems with roadhog then you should just pack up and go. There is no hope for you.