We all know Ganymede. Bastion’s favourite bird and companion. Since Ganymede has a large part of Bastion’s lore, it should make sense to use Ganymede as an ability/passive. I have 2 ideas for a new ability/passive:
Ability: Bastion sends out Ganymede and all enemies are revealed. This is a fill-and-deplete style ability, similar to D.va’s defense matrix.
Passive: Ganymede watches Bastion’s back, alerting Bastion if enemies are trying to flank him. I know this might be OP, but this ability only activates if enemies are VERY close to bastion’s rear.
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What if he was a personal discord orb for Bastion? Bastion could send Ganymede out to an enemy, and mark them through walls (and possibly give a 30% damage boost, but only to Bastion). All of the rules that apply to Zen’s discord apply to Ganymede, keep line of sight requirement, can’t send while shooting, one target at a time…
If a target has discord, Ganymede can’t be sent to them. If a target has Ganymede, a discord orb can be sent to them, and Ganymede will return to Bastion.
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I like the passive. Maybe a soft tweeting sound would help.
As much as it would hurt, maybe enemies could kill Ganymede until Bastion dies and respawns. He could have about 30 health with a very small hitbox that moves erratically.
That sounds absolutely unfair for Bastion. Nobody else in the entire game can be permanently crippled until they die.
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I like this idea it gets Ganymede more involved in battle in a passive manner this isn’t a bad idea at all really. I like it!!!
I’m imagining something like the motion detector from Aliens.
Another quick note, he would still need a few other buffs to become viable… People sneaking up on him isn’t really his problem, it’s his very inconsistent and often bad damage output…
I like the idea of the passive, but that alone wouldn’t do much of anything for him
Or he has the Alert sound from Metal Gear activate 
Actually he already has a use.
The “tank shells” are actually birds he fires out, as evidenced in his “Tank” victory pose.
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I like this idea and it could replace the passive instead. However I think that Ganymede and Discord should stack.
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I thought that might lead to a bit too much damage boost if you start stacking them, especially for normal abilities. If they could stack, you could use a Mercy boost, a Zen discord, and Ganymede for a 2.08x damage multiplier. If they don’t stack, you can only go up to 1.69x…
I’ve got a post containing several reworks and/or buffs, I’ve added yours as well. The Ganymede discord orb 1 and 2 are the ones I posted here, but in more detail.
https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/some-bastion-rework-ideas/128305
Bastion “Go Ziggs”
Send your bird into the sky for 8s, revealing enemies to allies and granting you 30% movement speed and CC immunity.
Widow mains would have 3 consecutive heart attacks and then die. Another hero would have their ult on a cooldown, and do it better… Not that I’m complaining. Kappa
I’d rework Bastion into a tank and just redo him at this rate.
His damage was TOO good back then and then they nerfed it after his last rework when they gave him sustain and survivability. It’s obviously too controversial for him to be too good at damage so, as an OG Defense hero I would just like to see him be made into an actual anchor tank with his old barrier from the beta and (I know none of you would like to hear this) but lower, consistent damage / perhaps AoE potential to suit being a tank.
Bottom line, no matter how they decide to fix him it will probably be controversial and I expect a shake up like they did with Symmetra
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Added a tank rework to my list… Here’s the basics of what I’ve got
Change health to 250/200
Add 750 HP barrier, same size as beta
Don’t change Sentry damage (With it’s current spread, it’s low enough to suit a tank already)
+15% Ironclad when repairing
Change tank slightly: less noise, more Ironclad, instantly apply Ironclad
I would also be fine with reduced spread and a slight damage nerf as well in this case… If his DPS stays roughly the same, it should be fine for a tank
ganymede becomes a ballistic missile
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Finally a buff idea that does not revolve around damage… Giving Bastion more utility is the way to go because it wont lead to mercy damage boosting a bastion behind a Rein shield and wiping a team walking out of spawn over and over again (this actually happens at low level)
Well, I mean, that’s Bastion’s problem though… his damage. It’s just not consistent enough with his spread, it’s pretty frustrating to play.
As for the spawn camping, having a Sombra sneak out of spawn and hack the Bastion can help with that. Or having a Rein to shield his team, or a Reaper teleporting out, or a Pharah/Hanzo peeking the shield while being healed… Or if you can deploy your own Bastion, have him shoot the shield while taking a bit of damage and being healed, then shield him with the Rein, he’ll win the barrier war, and you can roll the enemy team from there.
He is just hard to balance because you need coordination to take him out…