I have had an idea in my head for a while of shifting Bastion into the tank Role, i mean he already has the most health of the DPS category. I just think he would do a lot better under that branch and it would be a neat way to bolster the tank category. slap a 750-500 hp shield on him with a 50 point hp increase or give him 500-600 hp and he would be in a much greater position then he is rn and more fun to play. In my mind the Bunker down and belt lead play style doesn’t fit squishy heros. If he needs a draw back make his heal only work while he is in recon.
But to the main poin i want to know what people think as far as reworking bastion to be in the tank line up with the current need for tanks in the game.
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that’s just +500-750 HP shield or +300 HP and a name change. People will play the same except it’s better than 35% ironclad. Like how Sym was used as a dps instead of a pure support before she was a dps.
Well Bastion isn’t lacking in the damage department by any means, he can pelt out more damage with his turret form than a few ultimate abilities. His kit doesn’t feel like trash at all other than being to easy to kill if you don’t have a tank protecting you. And he has a role that just became more important as a counter to barriers. So with that listed he sounds on paper to be in a really good spot. But he isn’t. He is considered the worst hero in game by most except those who just hate him because they ran into a successful bastion. The point is that the game NEEDS more tanks and they have been leaning him towards being a tank with him having 100 more Hp then any other dps and a passive that reduces incoming damage (essentially increasing his health without pushing into tank territory). I think that bumping his Health pool up to 500-600 and removing his ability to heal in turret form would be enough to throw him into a good place, he would be a way to go as far as anti GOAT without having a team be third priority because their Pharah is first and second priority. His main problem is not being able to survive long enough once focused to relocate so giving him more health allows him to either have more time for a healer to get to him or more time to go recon and escape. The Barrier idea i had would just lead to a playstile like in alpha of the game where he would just run away and let the barrier recharge, so i have decided against that. The increased health pool with the removal of turret self heal would allow him to survive long enough to pull back from being overun and survive long enough for healer to help out. It also helps balance the DPS-Support/Tank gap in the game without having to wait for another hero.
That sounds like he’ll become more team dependent. If he can’t heal, he needs healers or ways of preventing him from taking that damage to begin with, as in a barrier.
No more crying against Hammond and doomfist.
i don’t quite understand how making him harder to kill in turret form would make him more dependent. In turret form he goes from an ehp of 360 to 600-720. The problem with bastion at current isn’t with healers it is with the fact that tanks have to artificially make him a tank. A healer needs to heal their team, it’s their job and reason of being. Bastion is locked down to a position and is often able to be killed before he can even escape his turret form. The reason being is he can’t survive the punishment. The extra Hp is to help him in surviving long enough so a healer can help him or he can relocate. The reason his heal is something i would disable in turret form is it takes his ehp form 600-720 to 900-1,020hp. Do you think anhero in the game can out damage bastion at either of those hp pools? especially if he calls in a healer to take over while he overwhelms 1-2 heros fighting him? If you can i have no idea other than Q being pressed. We want to make him less reliant, not completely independent.
I love the idea of making bastion a tank, however he would need a pretty heavy damage reduction in mainly sentry. I’d suggest giving him a team sized barrier too.
Good point lol. Still would love to see him moved to at least an off tank type category.
Yeah i think he’d keep his current role but move it to the tank category