Three health pools is too much for a hit-scan as effective as he is. His damage or spread should be nerfed I shouldn’t be cleaning up lobbies this easily with him.
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He’s been too good for a long time, either his damage needs to go down or regen burst needs to not be a burst heal.
Changing regen burst from how it was in OW1 was straight up a mistake.
You can’t be serious. Not in this version of Overwatch where healing is meaningless. Bap’s damage output is outmatched by Zen
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Everyone that says healing is meaningless is admitting they play poorly, just remember that. On top of that it’s his self heal that’s the issue, not his overall healing output.
but if he’s getting pelleted by a dps he heals himself less as well, I agree that lamp is pretty powerful albeit killable but his healing isn’t really all that crazy, Moira heals herself way more
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“Significant” is probably pushing it. The only thing I’ve ever been able to come up with is making it so the Baptiste player always receives the >50% HP regen burst, and now that the dps passive exists, I’m just not sure that’s necessary. I still think that to this day people see “immortality” and freak out for little reason.
I was Masters support. You’re not gonna sit there and tell me i was playing poorly. Bap was my most played support and i consistently put up good heals and damage. If i tried to do that now, its not happening cause the state of the game has shifted from a 3 role game to a 1 role game. It’s all just damage. Healing is pointless cause why bother healing if 20% of that healing is going to be ripped from you? It’s better to just outdamage your opponent by abusing debuffs such as cauterize and discord
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It’s the triple healthbar aspect of it. Moira heals herself lots over time but never heals a ton all at once.
Bap’s regen burst if he’s below 50% health, which is usually the time to pop it, heals him instantly for 80 health followed up by an additional 40 over time for 120 total in a short duration. That on it’s own isn’t wild or anything, but couple it with immortality field and it makes trying to go after Baptiste pretty hopeless without it being a team effort.
The biggest issue with it all though is that on top of Bap just being really good, his self healing enables the degenerate flanking playstyle. Moira, Baptiste, and Kiriko all do that sort of thing and everybody hates it. It’s obviously not the best strategy, but it shouldn’t even be a good strategy.
It’s the same thing as Ana just dumping all her abilities into enwmy tanks off cooldown. It’s not the best strategy but it’s still a good and degenerate strategy that shouldn’t be rewarded.
If healing isn’t pointless when Ana is in every match, then it’s not pointless now. I can tell you from experience across all three roles that healing is still very much relevant, to the surprise of no one thinking straight of course.
You ARE aware Ana is a very solid damage dealer, correct? Or do you just not think 70 damage is a lot? Great Ana’s were strong healers AND damage dealers.
What does that have to do with what I said?
Ana denies 100% of healing on one to five targets every 12 seconds. That’s way more impactful than the typical one to two targets receiving 20% less healing.
Just stop with the mindless “healing is pointless” narrative, it’s giving you brain rot.
what the hell there was a triplet in the Ranulf/Saber duo this entire time?
His damage output is more consistent and bursty
It doesn’t compare to Zen though, especially not now when Bap at least had solid heals going for him
I don’t think anyone can seriously complain about the few barely impactful supports even now in the DPS meta.
But here we are…