While she does make many tanks’ lives hell, she is often the only answer to a certain tank pick, especially in you are in solo q with pretty limited team coordination.
Since I am mainly a support player, I love having Ana on my team or sometimes picking her myself but not being able to fall back to Ana when a tank like idk JQ or Mauga is doing too much work will definitely shake up the meta a lot
Especially if you tank is unable to play the rock paper scissors with the enemy tank
So you want to say that Hero Banns might not work well in a game with so “few” heroes and therefore also limited possibilities to counter? Who would have thought that…
It’s not abt so “few” heroes. It’s simply because Ana is the only hero that has a non-ultimate 100% anti heal.
And the only non-tank left with a non-ultimate stun.
That’s all there is.
MR has less heroes and can make hero bans work cuz everyone is busted.
But OW doesn’t have another support like Ana.
Ana is too uncontested in what she does.
Yeah I think bans in this game is a bad idea. This isn’t every other game. It has unique counters, and bans will mess that up, a lot.
That is a big issue with overwatch balancing. rivals doesn’t have any hard counters in the game as overwatch do (they have soft counters at best) so the ban system is just people banning heroes they are fed up with facing or that are too strong in general.
in overwatch, i could see it just come down to people banning their counters, because almost every hero in overwatch have some sort of counter.
Ana is not the only answer to anything, she’s easiest answer
That’s why she feels like the only answer, it’s because she’s substantially easier to use against many things than anything else is. People don’t just play Ana because she’s strong, it’s also because she’s easy
That’s only partially true.
She is the easiest, because she is the only one not reliant on team effort.
Her anti nade will do sth regardless of the team effort involved in focusing the targets effected by it.
Especially in cases of sustain tanks Zen can sort of fill Ana’s niche in making their lives miserable, but Zen has no self peel. No cc and trash healing.
Ana is too uncontested
I don’t see this as a double-edged sword at all. If there is a single hero holding a significant chunk of the roster hostage, then taking her out of half (or more) of our matches will provide great insight to how those heroes should be balanced.
Yeah, there’s gonna be a lot of people saying tanks are unbearable without Ana. That’s the point. We shouldn’t need Ana to make playing against tanks feel alright, nor should we have had to buff tanks to make playing against Ana feel alright.
Taking Ana out of the picture part of the game will hopefully help help the devs to balance Ana around the game, rather than balancing the game around Ana.
While you are absolutely tight, I doubt it will work out that way.
Rebalancing the entire tank roster to not require Ana to take care of certain sustain raid bosses while also simultaneously rebalancing the entire hero cast and their perks will take a long time
They will definitely get some valuable data from the ban stats but until the game reaches a “solved” state again, it’s gonna be pretty frustrating for everyone
i think overwatch should just do away with all the counterpicks. it feels so obnoxious after having played rivals. things like genji deflect or dva matrix that are designed to give these heroes uptime shouldn’t just have beams going through them like nothing. it’s a flaw in the hero design. and maybe stop designing tanks that rely on a self heal mechanic to tank if you are going to keep nade in the game. all of the hard counters are direct work of overwatch balance team
That will be part of the problem, until she’s addressed by the devs.
Adding more Ana like options isn’t a solution either, it only continues the same problem we already have with Bap / Lifeweaver, Lifeweaver will always be terrible compared to Bap since Bap already has AOE immortality more consistent healing, damage & a better ultimate.
Adding Ana 2 so that Ana 1 can be banned more loosely doesn’t solve the issue of that we went away with hard CC in particular to compensate for the single tank taking all the pressure.
Tanks need to be as strong as they are in part due to the chance that they might suddenly lose 100% of incoming healing, if that weren’t the case they wouldn’t need nearly as much on demand damage reduction or as strong heals to compensate for the duration they’re not antied.
Another Ana better or worse than the current isn’t the solution, as we have already proven to be true with Lifeweaver.
Either they address her / what makes her problematic or the community faces the consequences of having to face kaijus without any dead cities to destroy.
What’s ultimately less fun will be figured out when it gets that far.
How do you propose they do that? Bans are one way.
Unlike rivals Ow’s hero abilities are actually quite unique to each hero they aren’t just beeg damage Aoe go brrrr as long as unique abilities exist there will always be some element of countering those abilities. Especially in 5v5.
And no matter how much I hope it, 6v6 will not be the main mode any time soon.
I’d love there to be less tanks that use self heal or a Dr but DPS players always cry if there is a barrier
The problem is that it’s not if they are doing too much work - a support sees Mauga or Hog and as soon as they die, they switch Ana. Doesn’t matter if the Hog is already 0-2, a support will switch because the Ana is just so strong against them that it just makes sense to switch to make life easier.
Currently both Hog and Mauga are pretty weak and Ana isn’t even required to beat them, but a support will always switch anyway.
This makes games pretty unfun for Mauga/Hog players as they have to face Ana every single game (and hanzo/reaper/…). It’ll be refreshing for those players to be able to get Ana out of some of their games, and it might even reinvigorate the tank role if Ana can be banned regularly.
I agree that hero bans are probably going to suck because I don’t think the balance team has the initiative or the competence to actually fix heroes who are getting banned, especially if it’s a complex kit issue with knock-on effects. I think it’s more likely that if a hero gets banned too much and the solution isn’t a simple nerf… Blizzard is still just going to nerf them into oblivion and call it a day.
But that’s an issue with Blizzard’s balance team being bad at their jobs, and it’s always been an issue; see Bastion, Symmetra, Lifeweaver, Sombra… The only thing that hero bans will change is that certain heroes won’t always get a free pass to run the game–if the Blizzard refuses to address a hero before they overstay their welcome, then players will.
It’s ok, we’ll learn to like a 2 year mauga meta
I don’t know why people cry so hard about banning system.
If you wanna keep banning Ana, then goes for it because i’m not playing Ana anyway.
I’m going to play Baptise Illari duo and do ton of damage, and still win the game with 14k dmg and 8000 healing. 
Instead of banning Ana, I would prefer to ban Mercy for personal reason. I just want to see those players play some other heroes…
Idk about not having hard counters in MR.
Wolverine into Groot, Sue into Wolverine, Namor into [insert dive hero], Hela into Iron Man/Storm etc are just some off the top of my head.
Ana mains are sad they can’t continue to abuse a broken character anymore. Womp womp
I think Hogs and Maugas might be in for a surprise when they vote to ban Ana, and their team mostly chooses to ban Hog/Mauga.
You don’t need to be fast enough to outrun a lion, you just need to be faster than the other guy. In much the same way, Ana only needs to be fourth most hated to slip through bans, and I suspect most people have at least three other choices they’d spring for first. It’ll be fun to find out, although we’ll never get the full official ban rate data.
I can tell you how that goes. Best case scenario, they go Moira. But the worst case scenario? They go Lifeweaver. I wouldn’t roll the dice if I were you.
Yea nah gang I’m not banning ana while hog is a hero in this game LOL.
I’ll just ban brig so that ana is a killable hero.