Australia and Africa should get their own leaderboard

Do you know who they best OW player in Australia/Africa is? neither do I.
As an Australian it is unfair that we get our own Oceanic servers and play with people from Asia yet we share the leaderboard with America. There’s nothing wrong with that, It’s just unfair. Since their are less people in Australia/Africa we have to wait so long for a Grand/master game and so it takes a long time to climb. When I play 6v6 on my xbox, games tend to take from 10mins to beyond 30mins.

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african leader board? how many people from africa play overwatch, and what do you think their skill level is

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I dont think Geographical location has a direct correlation to skill level. Its all about hand eye co-ordination and game sense. None of which is geo-specific. Just sounds racist to assume they would be less capable than other regions.

its not racist to know that an african leader board would be at a much lower rating than other regions, gaming just isnt big there vs korea

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Just because less people play that region (do you know that or just assuming) does not mean skill level is lower.

The common argument I can see would be less people to practise against = lower skill level. Reversing that; the less people you play against the more inventive you have to be with your playstyle to take advantage of known enemy strats/comfort levels.

The assumption that a person is lesser just because of their culture/geographical location is pretty much the definition of racism.

most of the best players in the world come from korea are you trying to say that its a pure coincidence?

Yeah, they could have really high level players

Well yes! If I followed your reasoning and went and found a Korean man in Sydney, bought him overwatch he would then have amazing skills as he is Korean.

Your whole thought process is about labelling people as different from others in a way that does not allow for personal growth based on any factor other than the country you are born in/live in.

I dislike seeing this point of view, disturbs me in our modern world that people limit themselves AND OTHERS because of prejudice and pre-concieved notions.

Yeah but Australia and Africa deserve to have their own region. What if there was one leaderboard. In Australia there are not many high ranked players because there are much less people playing Overwatch then in America so games take more time and aren’t fair. I am around 3600 on xbox and I am usually one the only masters in the match among low diamonds and plats. I haven’t seen one grandmaster in 6v6 in Australia.

you are clouding what I said with defending your political views, alot of pro players come from korea because gaming is huge there, many others come from china or western countries where gaming is also big… im not limiting africans from becoming pro players, its simply that gaming isnt big in african countries therefore africa doesnt yield many pro players. im not saying they are incapable of becoming pros but because of interests, wealth, population, or literately dozens of other reasons its usually not possible so it is very safe to assume that a scoreboard for a region that isnt huge into gaming will clearly not compete with Asia, NA, or EU… same goes for Australia.

you have to remember africa is still a developing nation

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A developing continent that is a part of a whole wider world. Did you know Africa has bugger all telephone lines? As they pretty much skipped landlines and went to mobiles thanks to the development of the rest of the world. The same can be said for many technologies that are part and parcel of everyday life for everyone. No-one imagines this technology is there but it is.

Another point of yours seems to be “As I assume there are less players and less skilled players there, they don’t deserve to see where they stand in regards to the players of the same region.” I don’t understand this.

I would be interested to see if there is a continent by continent comparison figure of the numbers of players, and the differentiating MMR range between these continents. If there isn’t where are you getting your figures from if not assumption?

your entire argument is flawed, if everyone is equal and the same why do you want a separate african or australian leader board why cant you just get on the asian, EU or NA leaderboards.

even if an aussie or african leader board were to come out it would be significantly lower ratings vs other regions and thats 100% true backed up by the thousands of other AAA games that has shown this

and relating to your quote probably because landlines would never be able to be built because of conflict and even if they were they would be quickly destroyed by fighting, thieves or natural disasters. and mobile was only set up for the UN peacekeepers which are there to stop africa from ripping itself apart but thats an entirely different topic.

I came down to say that Utlux was blowing your statements a bit out of per-portion, but it looks like he was actually right. Africas a big place my freind, and there is conflict but its not like its an entire continent of somali pirates and there thieving henchmen.

South Africa is just as modernized as the rest of the world, and there are reasonable sized tech hubs in country like Kenya and Ghana and Nigeria.

Thinking such a massive region is just a war torn wasteland is ignorant at best.

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literately half of africa is in some sort of civil war, insurgency, crippling food shortages or massive corruption. most cases all of the above. me having to enlighten you about this to convince you why africa is far less competitive than other first world nations is mind boggling

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ps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_conflicts_in_Africa#/media/File:Webysther_20150107_-Pa%C3%ADses_da%C3%81frica_que_atualmente_est%C3%A3o_em_conflito.svg

As a direct representation of how those players are contending against people in the same region, not because of a differentiating skill level, but as a point of interest. Id be very interested in being able to see Australian leaderboards, sort of a sense of national pride/familiarity.

Ok rating is more complicated than you understand. The number you have as rating is in flux. For example, say the top rated korean player is at 4k or something, and the top rated Australian player is at 3k. Assuming sr is region specific which would make sense as its a direct reference to how well you are going against players of that region. This doesn’t mean the Australian player has less game sense or mechanical skill. Max SR obtainable is dependant on the size of the player pool, even the amount of games played in that region, more games played by more people means that the physical max number of SR obtainable increases. So even though the players NUMBERS might be higher in different regions, doesnt mean skill is any less.

Youre just making stuff up now dude :confused:
None of those reasons are why they never had the landlines -_- is just the tech has been out for many years, is many times more affordable now, and first world governments are aiding them…

that is very true, 4k NA isnt the same as 4K ASIA so having a Australian leader board to see how you do against other leaderboards are actually pointless, and leader boards isnt for nations, theres no american leaderboard or chinese leaderboard… and if austrailians are having difficulty on getting on the leaderboard what ever region you play on then doesnt that mean that australians are worse than the vast majority of ASIA

Australia is it’s own continent so an Australian Leaderboard would make sense and New Zealand would be apart of it too.

Africa has the Internet??

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Yes, Africa has internet

You are being highly oversensitive here, there is nothing in this post that matches the definition of racism.

The decision not to create an african server is most certainly an economic one, so it would be a reasonable assumption that they simply do have less players. There is nothing racist about that.

If you believe this is a coincidence you are plainly wrong. The main reason is a cultural difference, gaming is incentivized stronger in Korea. Again, there is nothing racist about such an observation.