Ashe needs her aimed down sites to have damage fall-off. She is very oppressive. Her gun doesn’t even feel like it’s made for long range precision. Can we make her more of a mid range hero?
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Ashe already has falloff lol
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ummm but she is not a sniper? snipers has way WAY more dmg per headshot and a slowest charged shot o.o
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Falloff is 40-60m I’m p sure. Widow is 60-85 I think. Ashe is already meant for medium range not long
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She is midrange. Issue is her opressivity in her kit, her QtoWinFights Ultimate, how she can evade dives and being general to easy to abuse.
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Ashe already does have fall off.
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I’ve got great news for you, she already is 
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I’m talking more like Zarya
She is not a sniper; just a bit more long ranged than McCree
I say she has as much range as soldier, Torb, and maybe echo
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Tbh her ult has quite a lot of counters…
- Shields can deny it
- Reaper can just stand in B.O.B’s face and headshot him actually getting more health than damage so B.O.B is your health pack.
- Mei can freeze him for 1.5 seconds, put an ice wall on him to block site or just cryo freeze to stall
- Sombra can hack him for 5 seconds.
- Rein can charge him away to who knows where
- Bastion needs ~2.2 seconds to kill him
- Considering B.O.B doesn’t move he technically has only 500 hp so any hero with headshots will kill him fairly quick…
- Ultimates! Primal rage, nuke, high noon, Emp,Blizzard, transandance, Whole hog. all kill him pretty quickly.
For an ultimate I must say B.O.B is one of the more balanced ultimates…
The coach gun is at least slightly more balanced because it only knocks you a bit unlike Widow’s grapple hook who creates massive range but I agree the dynamite is pretty crazy… She should have a short recovery time before she can shoot again after throwing it. like 0.5 seconds or less…
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Her damage fall-off is exactly the same as soldiers.
30m is where her fall-off begins (same as soldier) 20m on hipfire (same as mccree)
Zarya isn’t midrange. She has a 15m beam. That is close range. That would be 5m less fall off than Mccree and only 3m more than tracer… It’s be the same fall-off as sombra.
THIS GUY GETS IT. You’re right on the money with her fall-off being the same as soldiers.
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It already does. All hitscans (and projectile shotguns) have falloff.
It needs more in my opinion. Especially with the changes it feels more of a buff with the recovery buff.
Zarya is midrange. Heroes like Reaper/Roadhog primary is close range. Roadhog’s hook is a midrange menace. Ashe is a sniper right now.
you want the character…who literally has a scope and a much slower fire rate… to have less range than soldier or even mccree… ashe will no longer one shot you. look to using barriers and alternative routes and stop trying to turn things into nerf guns in a shooter game
Scopes are good for more accuracy. But she needs more damage fall off. Destiny has aim down sights weapons too. Usually the ones that 1-2 shot you have less recovery time and or heavy recoil. She doesn’t have that.
If anything on Ashe needs fixing it’s that tnt instant explode more and more people are abusing, it’s getting so bad that she isn’t even starting to say her throw line before it has already exploded.
i guess soldier is a sniper since he dosent have to get super close to u, by ur logic
i always thought of her gun as a designated marksman rifle more than a sniper. not as powerful as a sniper but has a faster fire rate and you can scope with it.
widow is the pure sniper, soldier is the assault rifle guy (i kinda do wish you could aim down sights tho)
So soldier 76 is a sniper?
Bastion is a sniper?
I dont think theyre snipers. The game also doesnt count Ashe as a sniper. Since there is a sniper subclass that was recognised on the team selection screen that said “too many snipers” which didn’t show up for Ashe.
she ain’t a sniper
hanzo hard counters entire 200/225/250 hp roster, that’s an actual sniper
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