You two are very correct. Golden stars all around.
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No, you’re wrong. Tanks are god awful right now, except for ball. Everyone else is right and you are wrong. But I guess in gold league balance doesn’t actually matter.
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This is a weird way to phrase the WORLD IS WRONG BUT I AM RIGHT WAHAHAHAHA!
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Interesting that so many people believe the solution then is to nerf support.
Zarya bubbled him and enemy sig was in swing range. If you play rein at all, you’re supposed to get zarya energy and if you play zar, you know that you have to bubble rein so he can conserve shield health and swing without dying. He had 300 health with 100 armor AND bubble. He can’t hold shield ALL THE TIME. He has to apply pressure on the enemy tanks. He has to get ult charge. It was a good position to swing. If he got low, he can get back to that little room / corner, but he died faster than he can react. His healers also weren’t able to react.
Also you’re in gold. No offense but Literally no one knows what to play in which maps. Everyone’s just banging their sticks and having a good time. People only play ball sig orisa hog in higher ranks because they don’t randomly explode and half the tank roster is unplayable (rein’s trash, monkey’s trash, zarya’s bad, and god forbid, in 95% of cases, don’t play dva) In master, I blow up more times than I’d like and apparently in gm, it’s worse.
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Hmm no, there have been dozens of posts complaining that tanks are in a bad state, which from my experience I agree with. And then there’s this post, that blames bad tank players instead of blaming the real issue, which is that the tank heroes themselves are weak. Look, in gold league all the players are bad. This is irrelevant.
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Well if their all bad then none are, simple fix. Have fun kiddo.
Wrong again. Have fun kiddo.
I will with the tanks, something you will never be able to do whhaaahahaha
Well I’d be fine with blizz nerfing like 7 dps heroes but let’s be real, they’re too lazy to do that. They’re just gonna nerf mercy and zen that are top 2 supports in gm right now and both have the ability to amplify their entire teams damage.
yes but like you said- the enemy tanks will also be feeding more = more ult charges for everyone, and more support defensive ults to survive through them. bottom line is i’d rather spend more time participating in the fight than dying and walking back from spawn.
yes that’s true, if you want even fewer tank players in this game lol, maybe if you want 0 tank players then how about nerfing all of the tanks down to be orisa/winston level of impact? if fixing q times is such a priority then buff the sucky tanks to be viable so that people can play tank. but no more big nerfs on the role that is the least played
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i love playing d.va and use to play her every chance i could get. lately tho im feel real guilty about it like im gonna be a burden to my healers and be a big sponge feeder so i just play rein now. im getting better with rein WAY better than i was before its crazy how he can dictate a whole match the more skilled you get with him
not touching d.va until they do something about her and no one ever insta-picks rein so im always playing him. on those VERY rare occasions that someone insta-locks rein then i give d.va a shot, still feel guilty about it tho lol
Everyone was crutching Sigma/double shield. It’s kinda like when Orisa was op and they nerfed her and tanks didn’t know how to tank after that.
With the Sigma nerfs and Zen being meta dive is more viable now, love this balance besides Mercy she’s op.
I probably get better results than you do.
Eh most likely arthritis plus bone loss doesn’t exactly make me E-sport material.
But i’m still having fun.
Didnt they nerf armor a while back because of brig? Because damage is not higher than earlier seasons
While I’m not a tank main (I play everything but have a preference to DPS) I do think people are overstating just how bad it is.
DPS are still the weakest role, although Gold players are just woeful at thinking it all comes down to the DPS, which leads the idea that tanks are worthless
Reinhardt is far too strong for lower skilled players that you can just win by playing Reinhardt, this has more of a problem that it deters people from playing tank because they don’t enjoy him, meanwhile he’s not very good in the higher ranks so at some point there is a flow of Reinhardt’s getting to a higher rank then deserved then immediately getting shredded because they can no longer play Rein to the same success and then start to think that tanks are bad
And finally, people don’t pay attention to the statistics in GM so they’re thoroughly confused by the latest balance change, furthermore cementing the idea that tanks are bad
So there’s a few things influencing the belief that tanks are bad, overall DPS is still the weakest role, so it’s not as bad as it could be
Tank player pool shrinking, Queue times rising, Overall tankplay quality going down as tank mains leave and replaced by queue-pass farming DPS and the match making scrapes the dregs to fill tanking spots.
When? Because this was 2020.
This was mid february
March, before the hero bans
June after the hero bans
July
August
September (Hog patch)
October
Don’t blame Doubleshield or Orisa being somehow a must pick when she was in fact barely played for the entire year. People keep blaming her for somehow pushing out the other tanks when she’s barely even in the game.
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I mean this doesn’t show the player base shrinking if anything shows the player base spreading out between more tanks. Outside of orisa, which is understandable. Like her gameplay can be rather dull, and the cool things you can do with her require your team to set up AOE kills.
like look at winston and d.va they actually have a decent pickrate. (at least of october)
DPS Queue times going higher and tanks going lower despite widening the MMR and adding lootbox rewards. And now they’re adding queue passes trying to get more DPSes to pick up tanking. You can even tell the increase of complaints about incompetent tank players as the tank mains that actually knew how to tank left, and replaced by queue-pass farmers. If the tank regulars who are already aware of how to make a tank work have left, how well did you expect their supposed replacements who just flex into tank to do.
Those numbers aren’t equalizing because they’re getting picked up more, they’re getting inflated as the number of tanks shrink.