I’m just about done with this…
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As a support and tank player, I agree with you.
Hero Pools is a terrible idea.
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as a tank player, i disagree with you
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Limiting an already limited tank pool is not a good idea.
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As a flex I am personally excited… but as a teammate this makes me nervous. I’m not sure this works with everyone’s playstyle.
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I’d rather they just ban sigma or rework him
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it is a good idea when the meta limits it more than hero pools ever could
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Which part of this is confusing to people? Tanks have been limited by orisa for 6 months… supports have been limited by moira or bap for 6 months.
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I think you’re agreeing with me?
Yeah, tanks and supports are sparse enough as it is.
To me, it’s a cheap and artificial way to deal with the meta. Instead, they should go with the hero changes more often when one becomes meta… change the hero up.
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Ditto. Honestly, hero bans sounded way better than hero pools. How can Jeff think this is a better idea than hero bans? Like… what?
- Players have no control over what heroes get banned so… how does this give “more control” to player experience? This will just frustrate people like crazy
- One tricks will be soft throwing in competitive until they find another hero they like to play for that week.
- More confusion (about the meta) will cause more chaos and thus more toxicity in comms. Be ready just to mute all your games because nobody will have anything nice or know what they’re talking about without any meta stability.
As a flex player, I agree with you.
After role queue came out, there’s been a drastic decline in match quality. Healers not healing, tanks not knowing when and how to push.
Now imagine all those players who don’t main the tank or support role, playing characters they aren’t comfortable with because their only character was not available(or taken by another person who could not choose the hero they main).
For us people bronze to plat, games are gonna be even more frustrating. How am I suppose to practice more heroes to get better in games that are pretty much stomps one way or another?
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Additionally it seems like a lazy band-aid solution, at least there is some strategy involved with hero bans and it helps deal with OTPs, whereas hero pools just feels annoying and limiting without providing much value IMO.
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It almost feels like Daddy Jeff doesn’t trust his children to decide what heroes they don’t want to play with, so he’s choosing them himself.
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I disagree as a support main myself. But as tank, that’s just completely unfair:
We have like 17 damages
8 tanks
7 healers
Both tanks and healers will be immensely restricted. Although tank is the most valuable and one of the most important roles. I guess which is kinda unfair
I think you’re right. I feel like the fear with hero bans was that some heroes (ahem… Widow) would be instabanned every game, so this was their solution.
And the fear that OWL is boring with the same meta, Jeff and co. decided they’d pick the meta instead and see how long it takes players to figure out how they want everyone to play. Guaranteed the meta they thought they picked is not gonna be the meta that players pick up on and the result will be even more frustrating and OP. lol
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Yes. People are complaining about the meta being limiting now, but imagine it if you start banning tanks. If you ban Reinhardt,and he will get banned because he is meta in GM right now, you are basically forced to have an orisa or sigma because shields are so necessary.
people whining about the hero you picked isn’t the same thing as the game simply not making that choice available. not even close.
Time will tell how it gos. But i see what bliz is trying to do. They made the game at first so u could pick any hero…but we players kept picking only this or that hero…so they made it so u could only have 1 of each hero on a team…we players just picked this or that hero mainly again and made goats a thing…so they did role que…and we players yet again only picked this or that hero. The heros picked were more often theb not the most powerful ones at the time. So now bliz is saying ok i pkayers cant be trusted to pick outheros by yourself out of the 30+ heros we made for u so…they are gona force us to pick the not so popular heros. They are trying to fight 1 tricks and metas…when its probly not that thats causing the issue. But that is there thinking…i think
Yeah, they’re adopting the strategy that just ends up pissing people off - the top down authoritarian do what we say how we say it approach. The correct approach would be to make the desired style of gameplay appealing in the first place, but that’s too hard apparently.